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May 10 2006, 11:28 AM
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![]() Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 10 2006, 10:38 AM) uh yeah dude. i've been to london before too...most recently this summer. i know what i'm talking about. *sigh* she's so dreamy. i can't wait to go back. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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May 13 2006, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 9 2006, 08:48 AM) i'm not sure if there's a municipal airport around here but i'm sure w/the high cost of gas right now, the 108 or 112 or whatever it is (i forget) that they pump into sessnas and crap isn't too much more than gas at the pump. go grab ya a few gallons and dump some in with each tank. cessna. for the most part they use 100 low lead, which you dont use in your car. and even then, smarter flight schools/pilots use mo-gas(same stuff we buy at the pumps) because its cheaper and works just as well/better since you dont have lead buildups. fun fact, the FAA requires you to make an engine mod to any small airplane to use mogas... know what that mod is? a clamp you put on a steel pipe, think... rubberband on a flagpole. |
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May 13 2006, 09:52 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (hodge @ May 13 2006, 09:06 AM) cessna. for the most part they use 100 low lead, which you dont use in your car. and even then, smarter flight schools/pilots use mo-gas(same stuff we buy at the pumps) because its cheaper and works just as well/better since you dont have lead buildups. fun fact, the FAA requires you to make an engine mod to any small airplane to use mogas... know what that mod is? a clamp you put on a steel pipe, think... rubberband on a flagpole. Depending on the plane, say a Piper Cherokee, you will get different "mileage" out of a tank of mo-gas than 100. The 100's higher flash point makes it a little more efficient, but more expensive so the trade-off is in your head. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 13 2006, 10:17 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Higher octane fuel isn't any more efficient or clean or whatnot. The efficiency comes from the pressure ratio in your engine. The octane rating is merely a measure of the gasoline's resistance to pre-ignition (i.e. engine knocking). One of the few useful things I learned in thermo...
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May 13 2006, 10:19 AM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
100LL is also more widely available.
and it is much more expensive than regular gas right now. since we buy so much we were getting it for like $3.65, but i think the general public could get it for close to $4 at lbb. at slaton municipal it's gotta be higher because my boss hasn't made me drive out there in a while. at some airports, like addison, it's over $5 per gallon. |
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May 13 2006, 10:20 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 13 2006, 10:17 AM) Higher octane fuel isn't any more efficient or clean or whatnot. The efficiency comes from the pressure ratio in your engine. The octane rating is merely a measure of the gasoline's resistance to pre-ignition (i.e. engine knocking). One of the few useful things I learned in thermo... I'll have to thank my flight instructor for giving me bad information. I never fly with 100 anyway, it's always regular old unleaded. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 13 2006, 11:46 AM
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heh any owner/flight school that plans on limiting maint work is better off using mogas. ive had to sandblast pistons because of lead buildup, shit is annoying. and lamont; we used to get 100ll at ~50cent/gal more then we'd pay for 89octane, $5 a gallon seems absurd but i know how easily they can rip you off. to the market of .50cent-$1 markup per gallon.
another pro tip: 1 gallon of marvel mystery oil in 500 gallons of gas helps engines last longer. think of it as fuel additive oh and hart: when you say piper cherokee it helps to specify model. with most all planes in general aviation there is big differences between each. |
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May 13 2006, 12:40 PM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (hodge @ May 13 2006, 12:46 PM) heh any owner/flight school that plans on limiting maint work is better off using mogas. ive had to sandblast pistons because of lead buildup, shit is annoying. and lamont; we used to get 100ll at ~50cent/gal more then we'd pay for 89octane, $5 a gallon seems absurd but i know how easily they can rip you off. to the market of .50cent-$1 markup per gallon. another pro tip: 1 gallon of marvel mystery oil in 500 gallons of gas helps engines last longer. think of it as fuel additive oh and hart: when you say piper cherokee it helps to specify model. with most all planes in general aviation there is big differences between each. yeah, last summer the price of low lead was like 50-60 cents more than it was at the pumps. it skyrocketed during the fall. the price is disgusting in lubbock, but it's a lot worse in other cities (places where people actually want to go) |
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May 13 2006, 03:30 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (hodge @ May 13 2006, 11:46 AM) heh any owner/flight school that plans on limiting maint work is better off using mogas. ive had to sandblast pistons because of lead buildup, shit is annoying. and lamont; we used to get 100ll at ~50cent/gal more then we'd pay for 89octane, $5 a gallon seems absurd but i know how easily they can rip you off. to the market of .50cent-$1 markup per gallon. another pro tip: 1 gallon of marvel mystery oil in 500 gallons of gas helps engines last longer. think of it as fuel additive oh and hart: when you say piper cherokee it helps to specify model. with most all planes in general aviation there is big differences between each. I fly a 181. I generalize because most people don't know the difference between a 181 and 182 and don't care -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 13 2006, 06:09 PM
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![]() Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ May 13 2006, 10:19 AM) 100LL is also more widely available. and it is much more expensive than regular gas right now. since we buy so much we were getting it for like $3.65, but i think the general public could get it for close to $4 at lbb. at slaton municipal it's gotta be higher because my boss hasn't made me drive out there in a while. at some airports, like addison, it's over $5 per gallon. addison airport likes to rip off rich plano old men with too much time and a pilots license. that's pretty much their game. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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