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post Nov 10 2008, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM) *
And I do not want to go back to "what the founding fathers envisioned". For the longest time, America was a third world country.


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post Nov 10 2008, 01:01 PM
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As for me, I'm for state's rights and self-reliance.

The Fed is for national defense, partial infrastructure, and taxation with equitable payout.


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post Nov 10 2008, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM) *
And I do not want to go back to "what the founding fathers envisioned". For the longest time, America was a third world country.


Huh?

Yeah, that's why people are flocking to Vietnam, most of Africa, and eastern Europe.

We were isolationists but we weren't third world. I have never read any accounts where historians refer to the U.S. as "third world".


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post Nov 10 2008, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 10 2008, 02:06 PM) *
Huh?

Yeah, that's why people are flocking to Vietnam, most of Africa, and eastern Europe.

We were isolationists but we weren't third world. I have never read any accounts where historians refer to the U.S. as "third world".

I think he meant that pre-industrial revolution, we were like a "third world country", not that we actually were at that time.


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post Nov 10 2008, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:35 PM) *
If everyone lived as in the book "Walden" the world would be better off.


But HDR was such a moocher in real life.


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post Nov 10 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Nov 10 2008, 03:16 PM) *
But HDR was such a moocher in real life.


Who?
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post Nov 10 2008, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:47 PM) *
I think we need education but not in the state it's in today. Today's schooling kills the natural curiosity of the student and their will to learn. Students are taught to memorize answers for tests and not actual critical thinking and reasoning skills. I could have condensed all four years of my high school into two and learned a whole lot more and been whole lot better off.

I didn't say to get rid of all government, but to invert it. The most power should rest with the local government and the least power should rest with the Federal government. Nowadays it's reversed. The Federal government's only tasks should be to coin money and protect the country from outside threats. We need to go back to what the founding fathers envisioned.

I can assure you that any teacher that has started out having illusions of developing critical thinking and reasoning skills had the truth revealed within the first year. I don't think I have a single student that can memorize facts, let alone piece together facts to come up with a new idea. It's extremely frustrating.


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post Nov 10 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 04:06 PM) *
Who?

Sorry HDT, his family supplemented his Walden life with food and goods. Read the unpolished version.


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post Nov 10 2008, 08:47 PM
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When I was in elementary school, I was taught under a curriculum known as the A Beka Program. It dealt with a high amount of memorization, and a lot of linking stuff together, like James referenced. If the program is instituted when the child is young, between the ages of 4 and 7, it works great. I never had trouble studying for a test. I found myself bored out of my mind in college because they were teaching us stuff I learned in junior high. The bad thing is, though, kids that came from a public school to my school did really poorly. They either failed completely and had to repeat the grade or they barely skated by with high D's and low C's. Memorization, reasoning, and critical thinking among students is a possibility, but only if we start it at the lowest level.
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post Nov 10 2008, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 10 2008, 08:47 PM) *
When I was in elementary school, I was taught under a curriculum known as the A Beka Program. It dealt with a high amount of memorization, and a lot of linking stuff together, like James referenced. If the program is instituted when the child is young, between the ages of 4 and 7, it works great. I never had trouble studying for a test. I found myself bored out of my mind in college because they were teaching us stuff I learned in junior high. The bad thing is, though, kids that came from a public school to my school did really poorly. They either failed completely and had to repeat the grade or they barely skated by with high D's and low C's. Memorization, reasoning, and critical thinking among students is a possibility, but only if we start it at the lowest level.


i mean no offense, but i don't really consider you a poster child for creative thought processes


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post Nov 11 2008, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 10 2008, 09:59 PM) *
i mean no offense, but i don't really consider you a poster child for creative thought processes

What qualifies you to make that judgement? Honestly, I imagine you lack any such qualifications which makes your opinion hollow and it's understandable why offense wouldn't be taken.


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post Nov 11 2008, 01:58 AM
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I'd say I understand how the universe works pretty well, just can't remember certain specifics alot, like where are my keys!


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QUOTE (James @ Nov 11 2008, 12:20 AM) *
What qualifies you to make that judgement? Honestly, I imagine you lack any such qualifications which makes your opinion hollow and it's understandable why offense wouldn't be taken.





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post Nov 11 2008, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 10 2008, 10:59 PM) *
i mean no offense, but i don't really consider you a poster child for creative thought processes
you don't know me so that doesn't offend me
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 11 2008, 10:35 AM) *
personally, i'm very offended that brandon would say that about jessica
o, i kno rite?
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