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post Oct 27 2008, 11:12 AM
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When I was driving to work this morning I noticed a bunch of political signs along the side of the road. The usual McCain and local shit, but a few of em bothered me. There were a few signs for Constables and Sheriffs proclaiming their political affiliation.

Partisan politics has no place in officers upholding the law IMO. I don't want constables arresting people or giving them harsher/more lenient punishments based on their political beliefs. Their job should be to uphold the law without bias

Does this bother anyone else?


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post Oct 27 2008, 11:17 AM
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i never thought about it before, but now that you point it out yeah it bothers me
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post Oct 27 2008, 11:47 AM
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Same thing with Judges...


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post Oct 27 2008, 01:03 PM
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I shudder to think what kind of filth Obama woild appoint to the supreme court sad.gif


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post Oct 27 2008, 02:02 PM
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Yeah, I always thought that political parties should be disbanded in the justice department. Even though I don't like it, parties in policy making help get laws through.


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post Oct 27 2008, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 27 2008, 02:03 PM) *
I shudder to think what kind of filth Obama woild appoint to the supreme court sad.gif
Well, we can all hope that no Supreme Court Justice decides to resign during the next 4.5 years if he is elected.
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:30 AM
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Don't forget about death and the very unlikely possibility of impeachment


Political party affiliation doesn't always matter with judges as far as interpretation of the law goes...




Example: Sandra Day Oconnor .... or john paul stevens

The later was appointed by Ford but he has been fairly liberal in his interpretation of the law.

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post Oct 29 2008, 05:28 PM
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That is true, but look at judges on circuit courts whose appointments are not for life.


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post Nov 2 2008, 02:03 AM
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I don't see a problem with it. They declare their affiliation publicly instead of hiding it from the world. They are still lawmen and have a duty to uphold the law without bias. If you feel they're not capable of doing so, then don't vote party lines. Only difference between the elected official and their subordinates is you know the party affiliation of the official while you know nothing of the subordinates - the ones that are out working the streets. No, the elected officials do not always hire based on party affiliation, either.


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post Nov 2 2008, 02:57 AM
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post Nov 2 2008, 08:32 AM
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you know what's funny to me? I'm not necessarily an Obama supporter and still haven't decided who i am voting for, but aren't the bailouts incredibly socialist? and let's not to mention all the anti-terror laws "for our own good."
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post Nov 2 2008, 01:43 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Nov 2 2008, 03:57 AM) *

do you honestly think that would happen, Aaron?


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post Nov 2 2008, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Epic @ Nov 2 2008, 09:32 AM) *
you know what's funny to me? I'm not necessarily an Obama supporter and still haven't decided who i am voting for, but aren't the bailouts incredibly socialist? and let's not to mention all the anti-terror laws "for our own good."
not necessarily. In my opinion, the bailouts are an attempt to save the financial sector in order to keep our somewhat free market. It only deals with finances. Socialism deals with THE PEOPLE... how to make the people equal. Obama wants to spread the wealth. Rescuing (or attempting to) a few banks isn't going to spread the wealth. It's going to hopefully protect people's investments. Socialism has nothing to do with laws that invade privacy either. It's only about equality for the people. Theoretically, that's why neither thing that you said is socialist. In my opinion, socialism isn't necessarily "big government," but almost always is because the programs cost billions upon billions of dollars. Non-socialist governments can spend just as much if not more money building new roads, better schools, etc for the people. I think our current idea of what socialism is is really screwed up. I will say, though, Obama is very socialist by the very most literal meaning of the term.
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 2 2008, 04:57 PM) *
not necessarily. In my opinion, the bailouts are an attempt to save the financial sector in order to keep our somewhat free market. It only deals with finances. Socialism deals with THE PEOPLE...


Main Entry:
so·cial·ism
Pronunciation:
\ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods



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I think our current idea of what socialism is is really screwed up.

Well then, quit bandwagon-ing your definition of Socialism to fit whatever McCain and Palin espouse.
The old Stars-and-Stripes won't be dipped in red paint when Obama is elected.

Yes, the definitions of economic systems are in some ways fluid and can adapt over time. But what McCain, Palin, yourself, and others are claiming seems more akin to Communism.
Yeah yeah...."Socialism is a stage to Communism"...heard that Marxist quote/tripe many times before. Doesn't seem to be the case in a majority of examples, nor would any such drastic changes EVER take hold/be accepted here in the U.S.


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post Nov 2 2008, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Nov 2 2008, 05:30 PM) *
Main Entry:
so·cial·ism
Pronunciation:
\ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods




Well then, quit bandwagon-ing your definition of Socialism to fit whatever McCain and Palin espouse.
The old Stars-and-Stripes won't be dipped in red paint when Obama is elected.

Yes, the definitions of economic systems are in some ways fluid and can adapt over time. But what McCain, Palin, yourself, and others are claiming seems more akin to Communism.
Yeah yeah...."Socialism is a stage to Communism"...heard that Marxist quote/tripe many times before. Doesn't seem to be the case in a majority of examples, nor would any such drastic changes EVER take hold/be accepted here in the U.S.

damn, calm down, Zach. Don't get all PO'd because now that you're a Obama follower, you yourself must also be labeled a socialist.
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