ohio sues e-voting company diebold Options

[Seeker]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...y-machines.html

cue all the republican schlong suckers on here to ramble on about how great electronic closed-source paperless voting and diebold is

[impala454]

cue the losers who cry about it but dont present any solutions

you want voting machines to be open source??

you think humans physically counting and recording votes will be less corrupt???

[Seeker]

nope, the solution is already here, optical scan machines are reliable and fast and have been used for decades

if it's not broke then don't fix it

[chook]

I'll agree

[impala454]

nope, the solution is already here, optical scan machines are reliable and fast and have been used for decades

if it's not broke then don't fix it

Who collects the votes and operates the machines genius?

[Seeker]

Who collects the votes and operates the machines genius?

does it matter genius? optical scan voting machines are still more reliable and less susceptible to voter fraud

[impala454]

Yeah because tens millions of pieces of paper in hundreds of thousands of cardboard boxes is so reliable. And what's the difference between teh evil diebold making some electronic voting machine and some other company making some vote counting machine?!? You're missing the point. The machine doesn't matter. Any machine, any system is corruptible.

[Seeker]

my bad, a mainly hardware based voting system isn't more secure than an electronic voting machine with an unpatched windows backend with an access database that transmits unencrypted votes over a network to main polling stations... you're so right! i don't know how i could have been so stupid... thank you for enlightening me

[impala454]

mainly hardware??? it's like you think you're some kinda fuckin voting machine expert from the internet tabloids you read. so once this super secure optical scanning machine reads all the votes for a precinct, wtf happens then? does a fucking fairy fly out of its ass and zip over to the fucking voting headquarters with the report?? or is it a HUMAN BEING that records the shit down somewhere? you act like computer hacking is the only form of corruption possible with this shit. it's not.

[Seeker]

you're totally missing the point

electronic voting machines make it possible for that HUMAN to change votes on a much WIDER/LARGER scale... instead of some local idiot working for a county and burning a box of votes we're talking about any average joe off the street (who doesn't even work at the polling location) can walk in and tamper with the machine by inserting a malicious memory card, not to mention a hacker can hack into the main polling station and change the votes from every county in the state.

i'm not saying optical scanning machines are tamper-proof but they have a whole hell of a lot less fail-points and vulnerabilities, and the fraud is usually locally-contained

which would you rather have now? get the point dipshit?

hey dumbass... i've never heard of any optical voting machine companies being sued for unreliable voting systems... but oh wait... an electronic voting machine company is being sued by a state... i wonder why? hahaha, dude you're a fucking tool

From article:

Brunner has advocated reverting to a system of optically-scanned paper ballots

HAHAHA! TOOL!

[impala454]

Your naivity and paranoia amazes me. As does your childish name calling. I'm not talking about some Joe Blow burning a box of ballots. I'm talking about the bureaucrat who reports the numbers from large regions. So to turn your own completely backwards ass logic back on you, is it easier to find a handful of people you can trust, or hundreds, possibly thousands? It sure seems to work for financial institutions and the military and anyone else who uses highly secure computer systems. Now perhaps the existing system isn't secure enough. Fine. If a system is vulnerable then you secure it, you don't go back to scratching down chalk marks on your cave walls.

[Spectatrix]

[Seeker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsgY4_BB2lo...feature=related

waiting to hear impala's rebuttal of this interview

[impala454]

I don't really care to go watch whatever stupid bullshit you came up with. Give me the gist of what they're saying if you want me to tell you how stupid it is and why.

[Seeker]

it's a 2 minute video, quit being a lazy bastard