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post Jul 11 2008, 10:37 PM
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So, i'm thinking of becoming a vegetarian for a month or two just to see if maybe my fat ass can lose some weight doing it. In actuality, it's more of an experiment to see how my body reacts to no longer eating meat every meal. Any suggestions and helpful hints from those who have tried vegetarianism? I'm esepcially interested in still staying meaningfully healthy. And if you don't want to contribute anything meaningful that's fine, please don't post. I DO NOT have any sort of PETA affiliation. I will post my results in this forum as time progresses. I probably won't start this trial until monday of next week.


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post Jul 11 2008, 10:57 PM
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It's not directly related, but if you are on Facebook, there's an application called My Diet that I have been using. You keep a food journal and an activity journal, and you weigh in and it keeps track of your goals and stuff. Honestly, the best part is the food journal - I have kept myself from so many temptations because I didn't want to add it to my journal and see those calories on paper!


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post Jul 12 2008, 12:05 AM
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just make sure you have enough protein and minerals like iron or iodine that is usually found in meat. If you went fish only, its not a bad idea.


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post Jul 12 2008, 12:27 AM
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Just eat various nuts instead of meat.


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post Jul 12 2008, 10:07 AM
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No way in hell I'd give up meat, but I did give up all carbonated drinks (including diet drinks) for a couple weeks and noticed I felt better and slept better. I gave in though sad.gif

Let us know how it goes.
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post Jul 12 2008, 10:12 AM
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Don't gorge on pasta.
Don't gorge on cheese either, though I presume you're including milk/eggs in this diet?
Stay away from most of the hyper-processed vegetarian foods (i.e. Boca, Morningstar). They're often no better than their corresponding hyper-processed non-vegetarian counterparts.
Try new foods (fruit/veggies/grains).
Possible sources of protein will be: beans, nuts, tofu, seitan, tempeh, dairy, and eggs... but you don't actually need as much protein as you think. Most Americans eat about 3x as much as they need.
If you want to invest any money, I'd recommend a cookbook called the Veganomicon (it's vegan, but has super-tasty stuff). If not, tell me a little about your tastes and I could forward you some recipes.


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post Jul 12 2008, 10:16 AM
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I'll already eat pretty much any fruit or vegetable. I'm not giving up milk and eggs. My tastes? Hmm, I don't know... there's not much that I won't eat.


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post Jul 12 2008, 11:50 AM
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I think there is a lot that you could do. Until I started eating some chicken, I was mostly vegetarian. If you're wanting to do this to be healthier, that's cool. I think it's a good way to cleanse the body. Once you start eating meat again, try meats that are lower in fat. Turkey bacon, for instance, is 55% less fat than regular bacon. I have gotten a lot of people to start eating it. It's pretty tasty. Stay away from red meat. Chicken is a lot healthier, and you can do so much with it. It grills up nicely so you have less fat. Fish and shrimp are also good. Basically, just stay away from red meat for a while when you go back to eating meat if losing weight and staying healthy is your ultimate goal. Plus, when you haven't eaten meat in a while, it's a BAD idea to eat a giant juicy steak. You'll have a bad stomach ache for a couple of hours.

As far as the vegetarian thing, I'm not big on stuff mixed together or tofu so a lot of your typical vegetarian meals I don't enjoy. I make spaghetti all the time, and it's still pretty good without meat. If you want a super healthy treat, you could try making the sauce from scratch, but it takes a while.

Try making vegetarian pizzas from scratch too. I mean, the fact that you are using all fresh ingredients instead of processed already makes it healthier. Plus, you can chose a cheese that is reduced fat. They sell pizza dough made by Pillsbury in the section that has slice and bake cookies and stuff. That's probably a little more simple than trying to make the dough yourself. Just chose ingredients that are fresh and are reduced fat.

The thing that will make this easier for you is making choices that aren't too far off from the way you regularly eat, but still making healthy choices. Completely turning your food habits around just sets yourself up for failure. Just go fresh, limit your carbs (I don't see carbs as that big of a deal, but apparently they cause weight gain... I've never had this problem and carbs are all I eat), reach from all areas of the food pyramid, and be creative.
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post Jul 12 2008, 12:28 PM
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Yeah i've made my own pasta sauce before... it's time consuming but well worth the effort. I used fresh tomatoes, minced garlic cloves, onions, bell peppers, various Italian spices, mushrooms, some tomato concentrate. Sauteed the vegetables and then I let them simmer in the tomato juices/spices for awhile, of course when I originally made this the sauce also included Italian sausage and ground beef. Thanks for the tips. I am defiantly rather carbohydrate heavy right now but I plan on cutting back my bread and pasta consumption but not eliminating it. Thanks for the tips!


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post Jul 13 2008, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Jul 12 2008, 01:28 PM) *
Yeah i've made my own sauce before... it's time consuming but well worth the effort.

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post Jul 13 2008, 12:15 PM
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post Jul 17 2008, 09:44 AM
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How's the vegetarianism experiment going?

I had a fantastic meal last night... Asian marinated tofu (baked), wasabi mashed potatoes, and asparagus. My very carnivorous boyfriend liked it too, though we did agree that the marinade would be good on chicken as well.


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post Jul 17 2008, 09:51 AM
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if you want to lose weight then eat six small meals a day spaced out about every three hours and do some weight training along with some form of aerobics like running

if you want to be a vegetarian i would recommend that you buy some quinoa which was a staple food of the incas and is cosidered a super-food in south america... it has a huge protein content and the protein is a complete-protein (very rare), so you get all the protein you need despite not eating meat

quinoa cooks and tastes like rice to me
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post Jul 17 2008, 11:35 AM
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yeah weight training is a huge part of it people tend to overlook.
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post Jul 17 2008, 11:43 AM
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I second the recommendation for quinoa. It's tasty and fantastically versatile. Your best bet in Lubbock would probably be to buy from the bulk dept. at Market Street.


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