Proof Democrats are Stupid - again. Options

[Dogmeat]

Subject: In just one year

This email comes in three parts:

Part 1

In just one year. Remember congressional election of 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.25 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5%.
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.



Part 2:

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.


www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under B Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
S ingle making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250



Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates



It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever.

If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen.

This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.




PART 3:

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.



1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77



2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ ldt.0.html



5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html



6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html



7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html



8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html



9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are ca used by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html



10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html



11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht



12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf



13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm



14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ."
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

[impala454]

yeap. pretty sad.

[cmac]

have you seen some of the insane shit that Bush has put before congress that has been rejected???

[impala454]

such as?

[Spectatrix]

Part 1: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/votedforchange.asp
Part 2: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/clinton-bush.asp

[impala454]

Forgive me if I don't take snopes as some real authority on politics. First they say that the Democrats don't currently control the senate.. that's not really true. Those two independents they speak of both participate with the democrat caucusses, and I'd guess vote with them as well.

The rest of their "commentary" is from a major anti-republican who's just speculating and not really stating any facts.

As for part 2: What they said was stupid. They're arguing semantics. The "email" or whatever you want to call it, clearly stated the circumstances for each of its numbers. Them trying to defend it like it's no big deal for you to hand over an extra 2-3% of your income to the government is sad.

Stick to debunking the "free $50 Olive Garden if you forward this to 10 friends" emails snopes. Putting a big "FALSE" on this one is stupid. As if the democrat controlled congress didn't contribute to any of the above .

[Dogmeat]

Part 1: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/votedforchange.asp
Part 2: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/clinton-bush.asp

Mmm, no, snopes is wrong, the Democrats are stupid.

[chook]

yeah democrats suck, but how much was the war in iraq last year?

[schwab]

Gas prices have nothing to do with congress, you are an idiot if you think they control gas prices. It has to do with the dollar free-falling and more demand in other places. Fairly simple. If it had something to do with congress or the house, then why would gas prices all around the world be going up?

Please explain to me how the democrats in congress for two years has explained americans being in debt and not being able to pay back what they owe? Pretty much explains why the housing crisis has happened. Unemployment is also caused by this, our crappy economy (which doesnt miraculously change in two years, it takes years to change an economy to what it has become).

Taxes, well I dont mind higher taxes due to the debt we are in. Spending aimlessly is not solving anything nor does it help the value of the dollar. I dont know why you bring up illegal immigrants on your defense of war spending....since both democrats and republicans have problems with the way they are here and mooching off of us. I dont think we should pull out of Iraq, but it is a huge waste of money from the beginning that we did not need, nor has solved anything.

[impala454]

Gas prices have nothing to do with congress, you are an idiot if you think they control gas prices.

The democrats have voted down every attempt to drill Alaska. I think that had a pretty profound effect.

[Dogmeat]

Gas prices have nothing to do with congress, you are an idiot if you think they control gas prices. It has to do with the dollar free-falling and more demand in other places. Fairly simple. If it had something to do with congress or the house, then why would gas prices all around the world be going up?

Please explain to me how the democrats in congress for two years has explained americans being in debt and not being able to pay back what they owe? Pretty much explains why the housing crisis has happened. Unemployment is also caused by this, our crappy economy (which doesnt miraculously change in two years, it takes years to change an economy to what it has become).

Taxes, well I dont mind higher taxes due to the debt we are in. Spending aimlessly is not solving anything nor does it help the value of the dollar. I dont know why you bring up illegal immigrants on your defense of war spending....since both democrats and republicans have problems with the way they are here and mooching off of us. I dont think we should pull out of Iraq, but it is a huge waste of money from the beginning that we did not need, nor has solved anything.

Every domestic drilling proposal and virtually any other proposal to develop natural resources, with the exception of eastern US coal mining, has faced opposition on pure bullshit grounds from the Democratic party for nearly the last 40 years.

So yes, they do have something to do with gas prices.

[schwab]

The democrats have voted down every attempt to drill Alaska. I think that had a pretty profound effect.

honestly, how much do you think that would bring down prices? 20 cents a gallon? Not exactly going to factor in to make a difference, the issue is there needs to be more funding towards alternative modes.

On a side note, I have no issue with drilling up there.....but I dont see it really making a difference in the long run.

[schwab]

Every domestic drilling proposal and virtually any other proposal to develop natural resources, with the exception of eastern US coal mining, has faced opposition on pure bullshit grounds from the Democratic party for nearly the last 40 years.

So yes, they do have something to do with gas prices.

read the post above.

Now responses on other parts of my post?

[Dogmeat]

read the post above.

Now responses on other parts of my post?

How about you read the same post you just quoted from me, and when you can put 2 and 2 together, we'll talk.

[schwab]

How about you read the same post you just quoted from me, and when you can put 2 and 2 together, we'll talk.

strangely, I did answer. All that was in your post was the amount of money that we pay for illegals, which has nothing to do with democrats or republicans (we both agree on that, we should not be paying for them), and then you compare taxes....which I mention already, what part of your post did I miss exactly?