Hybrids, split from the "blind people ..." thread Options

[Mommy]

this reminds me of that stupidass article someone posted a while back about how electric cars should make noise so blind people dont step out in front of them

I watched a CNN video the other day about some 8 year old kid that got hit by a Prius because he couldn't hear it driving down the road. The kid wasn't blind. He just didn't look both ways before crossing. He relied on his sense of hearing instead. When the Prius engine shuts off and the vehicle is running on battery power, it makes very little noise. Can't say I blame the kid. The other day when I was walking to take the trash out, I realized I did the same thing when walking through the parking lot. Thank God there were no shitty Toyota Prius' around

I kinda do see a problem with blind people not being able to know what kind of money they have. People will rip them off.

I have a problem with not being able to hear battery operated vehicles too... but mainly because I just think the Prius sucks. My dad keeps trying to get me to buy one. If I'm going hybrid, I'm getting a Honda Civic Hybrid

[impala454]

If you step into the road and get hit by a car, its your own damn fault. Short of blind people, who the hell sticks their ears out, then goes "hmm ok sounds good lemme cross now"?

[James]

I always use sounds to know what's around me, but I can also hear pretty darn good. I'm sure you can hear something on that car, the whir of the magnets in the motor or the wheels or the wind blowing past the car. Something.

[FORSAKENR320]

WHY IS NO ONE SAYING THE OBVIOUS?!!!!

LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE FUCKING CROSSING THE ROADS, YOU STUPID CUNTS!!!

fuck! like impala says, if you're that clueless to your surroundings you deserve to get fucking hit!

[Testm0nkey]

(honda has toyota build their modified hybrids for them. this is regarding the hating the prius if buying a hybrid would go with the civic sillyness eventhough the civic doesnt get as good of mpg)

and generally the safer bet is go to the original producers of the technology







just had to have my prius rant!

[Mommy]

(honda has toyota build their modified hybrids for them. this is regarding the hating the prius if buying a hybrid would go with the civic sillyness eventhough the civic doesnt get as good of mpg)

and generally the safer bet is go to the original producers of the technology







just had to have my prius rant!

The Prius looks like shit though. That's why I don't want one. Also, I would like you to source where you got that. The Civic Hybrid gets 40+ mpg consistently, and often gets over 50. I have a consumer reports account . Also, not to make your Prius argument stronger, but supposedly Honda has had some issues with their batteries or something so I would think that would mean that Toyota isn't building for them. Please link something about Toyota building parts for Honda because I just find that completely unbelievable, especially since Honda's Civic does get superior gas mileage (contrary to what you say) and the car is a lot more fashionable. Why would they build for the competitor?

[Testm0nkey]

The Prius looks like shit though. That's why I don't want one. Also, I would like you to source where you got that. The Civic Hybrid gets 40+ mpg consistently, and often gets over 50. I have a consumer reports account . Also, not to make your Prius argument stronger, but supposedly Honda has had some issues with their batteries or something so I would think that would mean that Toyota isn't building for them. Please link something about Toyota building parts for Honda because I just find that completely unbelievable, especially since Honda's Civic does get superior gas mileage (contrary to what you say) and the car is a lot more fashionable. Why would they build for the competitor?

because they have the lock-down on the top technology.

and civic getting higher mpg than a prius? why dont you read in your consumer reports about that because its incorrect

also i drove for 10 minutes in a prius when i test drove and averaged 99.9 mpg. the rest of the average mpg was 47mpg (this being the 1st time i ever drove one and thus wasnt getting the best mpg it can get)

silly people who drive regular cars!

[Psykopath]

Wow...

Prius owners really ARE elitists!

Seriously, that's awesome you have a Prius and all, but come down off your peak for a bit. kthxbye

[Testm0nkey]

no!


im as smug as ever. you all are absolutely ridiculous having to turn a car on to get around the neighborhood! why dont you go roast some dinosaur over a fire, caveman.

[Mommy]

because they have the lock-down on the top technology.

and civic getting higher mpg than a prius? why dont you read in your consumer reports about that because its incorrect

also i drove for 10 minutes in a prius when i test drove and averaged 99.9 mpg. the rest of the average mpg was 47mpg (this being the 1st time i ever drove one and thus wasnt getting the best mpg it can get)

silly people who drive regular cars!

I never said higher. I said they aren't that drastically different. And are you going to source your "Toyota building Civic parts" claim or not?

[Dogmeat]

no!
im as smug as ever. you all are absolutely ridiculous having to turn a car on to get around the neighborhood! why dont you go roast some dinosaur over a fire, caveman.

Please kill yourself.

[Mommy]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom...0,3985576.flash

Ok, here is the thing about hybrid vehicles, Cathryn. Yes, you are going to save money on gas. Yes, the technology is even coming down in price enough to make purchasing a hybrid affordable. The Honda Civic hybrid is only like $21k or something like that. BUT (and this is a big BUT) they are a poor LONG TERM investment. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree that they are a great short-term investment (ie you save money now) but in the long-run you lose. Why? Because hybrids have absolutely the worst trade in value. In fact, you may even be upside down on a trade-in with a hybrid (in other words, you owe more money than the car is worth so they have to tack that difference onto the price of the new car you wish to purchase). It would be better to straight out buy a new car without using your Prius as a trade-in. There is no market for used hybrids right now. So, down the line when you decide you want to purchase a new hybrid vehicle, you are not going to have anything to use as a trade to lower your monthly payments. It will probably be another 5 years before they perfect the technology to make it good enough to have value when you go to sell it.

I'm definitely not saying don't buy a hybrid. Hell, I want one, BUT to act like you are saving SO MUCH MONEY is completely wrong. They are more expensive initially (albeit like I said, they are coming down in cost) AND they have no value when you are done with them. Yeah, all cars lose value, but it's always nice to have a little something invested in such a big purchase. Choosing a car that depreciates slower is always a wise decision.

In other news, Ford and other auto makers are drastically cutting back on SUV production. Many are predicting that the SUV could become obsolete here in the next year or two if gas prices continue to rise. Trucks are no longer being bought for personal use anymore. They are really only being purchased by people who use them for business. I can't say this is a bad thing. I actually agree with it. I HATE SUVs. I drove a truck for 2 reasons: 1) I moved a lot and 2) I hate being the little person on the road. In Texas, the bigger the better is the attitude. I didn't want to be the small vehicle in an accident. Selfish, I know.

And how we started arguing about this in a blind thread, I have no idea.

[impala454]

because they have the lock-down on the top technology.

and civic getting higher mpg than a prius? why dont you read in your consumer reports about that because its incorrect

also i drove for 10 minutes in a prius when i test drove and averaged 99.9 mpg. the rest of the average mpg was 47mpg (this being the 1st time i ever drove one and thus wasnt getting the best mpg it can get)

silly people who drive regular cars!

it's amazing how little a clue you have. you actually think that mpg display is real time correct??!?!?

my friend's dodge pickup, big uber v8 smog edition will show like 75mpg when he's idling forward too. it's a simple computer calculation based on the mass air flow sensor, vehicle speed, and a few other things. it's nowhere near correct most of the time.

[Dogmeat]

it's amazing how little a clue you have. you actually think that mpg display is real time correct??!?!?

my friend's dodge pickup, big uber v8 smog edition will show like 75mpg when he's idling forward too. it's a simple computer calculation based on the mass air flow sensor, vehicle speed, and a few other things. it's nowhere near correct most of the time.

Not in stop and go traffic, on long trips it is.

The "instantaneous" fuel economy calculations are complete bullshit but the ones that are average, at least if the vehicle has been at a constant speed for awhile, are usually pretty close ... at least they are on GM vehicles.

But yeah the 'instantaneous' ones are crap.

[Oasis]

I love how the only person who doesn't know how much of a clueless dumbuck cathryn is is....cathryn

Hey cathryn, this is the BLIND thread, not the GLOBAL WARMING thread. Learn to goddamned read