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impala454
post May 1 2008, 09:54 PM
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insults tend to follow smugness...

insult the comments though, not the person tongue.gif
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post May 1 2008, 09:56 PM
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what exactly frightens me? impala made the comment there doesnt seem to be much out there that doesnt frighten me. am wondering where that came from as well as the cops comments. 99% of the time i will side with the police officer in a shooting. if you read this thread youd see i supported the HPD in this. what i dont believe in is personal gun ownership

edit: ah impala was referring to cmac in that one comment


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post May 1 2008, 09:57 PM
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word. i'm frightened of cobras and airplanes. pretty sure that's it.
so i just thought of this. i'm clearly anti-gun. however, i enjoy gun video games, such as first person shooters, etc. does that make me a hypocrite in your opinion?


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post May 1 2008, 10:03 PM
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are you asking me?

id say no because clearly its not in reality and you are using the game as entertainment. and i am willing to bet you have all your mental facilities therefore realize shooting games is for entertainment purposes and its not negatively influencing your behaviors. ie. going out to purchase a gun for whatever reason is far different than playing a video game that has weapons in it. simply having a gun around you no matter how careful you are has the potential to be lethal. a videogame doesnt


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post May 1 2008, 10:07 PM
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i'm asking anyone


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post May 1 2008, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 1 2008, 10:57 PM) *
word. i'm frightened of cobras and airplanes. pretty sure that's it.

sure rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (cmac @ May 1 2008, 10:57 PM) *
so i just thought of this. i'm clearly anti-gun. however, i enjoy gun video games, such as first person shooters, etc. does that make me a hypocrite in your opinion?

No.
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post May 1 2008, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 1 2008, 11:03 PM) *
are you asking me?

id say no because clearly its not in reality and you are using the game as entertainment. and i am willing to bet you have all your mental facilities therefore realize shooting games is for entertainment purposes and its not negatively influencing your behaviors. ie. going out to purchase a gun for whatever reason is far different than playing a video game that has weapons in it. simply having a gun around you no matter how careful you are has the potential to be lethal. a videogame doesnt


simply having a knife around me has the potential to be lethal

i could kill someone with a fork to the eyeball.

it doesn't fucking matter what tool you use, if you have the intention to use it on someone, it's just as bad. so, you get rid of guns. what now? people are gonna carry knives.. get rid of knives, people are going to carry cords to strangle each other with. (see the thugala gangs of india, where the term "thug" comes from)

someone is always going to have a weapon. if you decide to stop with them just getting rid of guns, and let the rest of the crime and murders happen with knives and other weapons, you're just a hypocrit that doesn't carry about people being hurt, you're just using it as an excuse because you hate guns


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QUOTE (cmac @ May 1 2008, 10:51 AM) *
i wouldn't have a gun. period. if by some reason one was within my reach, i can throw things pretty hard. otherwise, fight to survive by other means. if i die, which would probably happen, then i die. i'm cool with that. i'm not afraid of death. that's no way to live. not sure how i would handle the afterthought of knowing i took another human's life though.

like i said in the other thread, you guys act like your life takes place in a Steven Seagal movie or something. need to be armed and ready for chaos at all times. alpha male. git r dun.

ha, why do conservatives always try to relate abortion with gun control?
i'm pro-choice. life isn't life until it's out of the womb. imo.
an abortion at 8 months, to me, is like removing a kidney.
You, sir, are a moron. I have been biting my tongue a lot lately when it comes to insulting people on here, but god dammit. I can't hold it in here. A baby 8 months along in pregnancy can be held. In fact, most babies that are born a month early are healthy enough to go home within a week or two. They might be somewhat jaundice and a little underweight. Aborting a "fetus" that is 8 months old is murder. That baby can survive outside of the womb. I'm against abortion all together, but I won't say anything about women that chose to get it done early on in pregnancy. It's their wrong doing, and I know they will have to answer to God for that choice. I feel it is my place, though, to say something about abortions after the 5th month. Babies born in the 6th month of pregnancy, while very unhealthy, are living human beings that can survive outside a mother's womb

You are chosing the life of a criminal over that of an innocent baby when you say you would rather die at the hands of a criminal than kill him, but full-term abortions are ok. God, I swear. I will never understand that liberal viewpoint. Capital punishment is wrong, but abortion is ok? STUPID. I'm against both, but at least the conservative viewpoint makes more sense: taking the life of a murderer but preserving the life of the innocent.


I would be willing to bet everything I own in this world that if you were within arm's reach of a gun, and you were about to be attacked by a serial killer, you would take his life. No doubt in my mind. You make yourself out to be a strong human being, but no one knows how they will react under such circumstances (even if they have faced similar circumstances before and reacted differently)
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post May 1 2008, 10:47 PM
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exactly not everyone knows how they will react in that situation so you cant say all would shoot someone to death. im willing to bet, as ive heard of it before, that people/cops freeze up when they have to shoot. i know i would have an incredibly hard time shooting a gun, killing a person and i do not know how id face myself after taking someones life


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post May 1 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 1 2008, 11:40 PM) *
simply having a knife around me has the potential to be lethal

i could kill someone with a fork to the eyeball.

it doesn't fucking matter what tool you use, if you have the intention to use it on someone, it's just as bad. so, you get rid of guns. what now? people are gonna carry knives.. get rid of knives, people are going to carry cords to strangle each other with. (see the thugala gangs of india, where the term "thug" comes from)

someone is always going to have a weapon. if you decide to stop with them just getting rid of guns, and let the rest of the crime and murders happen with knives and other weapons, you're just a hypocrit that doesn't carry about people being hurt, you're just using it as an excuse because you hate guns

Even more, we already have a perfect example of a world where only the police have guns... PRISON.

Yeah, there's no violent crimes there....
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post May 1 2008, 10:52 PM
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that's fine. i just don't consider life, life until it's out. just my opinion. i, however, don't think you're a moron for having your opinion. you, as a woman, have the opportunity to carry a child, which i have no doubt would have a huge effect on an abortion viewpoint. i just don't consider abortion "taking a life."

i've been within arms reach of a gun when approached by a mountain lion within 10 meters. didn't reach for it then. never crossed my mind. i understand that's not the same as being attacked by someone with a gun, but just thought i'd throw that out there.


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post May 1 2008, 10:53 PM
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in response to impalas post:

thats a pretty poor example as the population in prisons are violent criminals. of course theres more crime there!


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post May 1 2008, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 1 2008, 11:53 PM) *
thats a pretty poor example as the population in prisons are violent criminals.

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QUOTE (cmac @ May 1 2008, 11:52 PM) *
that's fine. i just don't consider life, life until it's out. just my opinion. i, however, don't think you're a moron for having your opinion. you, as a woman, have the opportunity to carry a child, which i have no doubt would have a huge effect on an abortion viewpoint. i just don't consider abortion "taking a life."

i've been within arms reach of a gun when approached by a mountain lion within 10 meters. didn't reach for it then. never crossed my mind. i understand that's not the same as being attacked by someone with a gun, but just thought i'd throw that out there.
so it would have to be aborted within the womb, dead, and then removed for it to be ok? or would you say that taking the baby out and then killing it is ok?
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post May 1 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 1 2008, 11:55 PM) *
DING MOTHERFUCKIN DING MOTHERFUCKIN DING

we are never on the same page. so you are saying the world is filled with violent criminals therefore you need a gun? and you arent paranoid...


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