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[impala454]

cathryn gets the big picture, even if she doesn't portray it effectively

i'm going to blame impala and jessica's closed minds and inability to think outside the box on the media

in our society the media functions as a collective nervous system or immune-response task force inoculating the social body against any new pattern or incoming information that might threaten conventional values and biases and impala/jessica buy into it all hook, line, and sinker

I don't even watch the news/TV/etc. I get sick of how left they all lean. So there goes your grand theory. Don't get all pissy and act like I'm an idiot or closed minded because I don't agree with you that weed is the answer to all problems. Think of it this way, you can laugh at me all day long in twenty years if/when we're all hangin out in our weed houses and driving our weed cars running on weed oil and eating weed seeds writing poetry on weed paper.

And chicken: I understand supply & demand. I had that in mind as I typed that post. I simply don't believe these small changes in efficiency would help our fuel cost problems as much as the treehuggers think. The reason being like I said, we'd still have to import massive amounts of oil. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more fuel efficiency, but I do not agree with those who think it is equivalent to or greater than drilling for domestic sources of oil.

And cat: what kind of quantities of change do you think would occur? If we could wave a magic wand and make every combustion engine on the planet 50% more fuel efficient, what effects do you think it would have on the environment?

[Psykopath]

Imapala: This quote seems fitting here.

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

[impala454]

Using less oil doesn't eventually lead to using zero oil though. It has to be overtaken by some new technology. We're not going to just end up w/some car that's 1,000 miles per teaspoon.

Honestly, and you guys may think this is too simplistic, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy driving my gas powered vehicle until some sumbitch figures out fusion or some super efficient solar panels and electricity is practically free.

[THECHICKEN]

Using less oil doesn't eventually lead to using zero oil though. It has to be overtaken by some new technology. We're not going to just end up w/some car that's 1,000 miles per teaspoon.

Honestly, and you guys may think this is too simplistic, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy driving my gas powered vehicle until some sumbitch figures out fusion or some super efficient solar panels and electricity is practically free.

Or we run out of Gas and you have to walk everywhere....

[impala454]

We won't run out in my lifetime, and I guarandamntee you we'll have better technology for electricity by the time I'm an old geezer too.

[Testm0nkey]

my boyfriend works in the oil industry and they TOLD him the supply at the growing rate of use will run out in 50 years. ive also heard that. thats probably a pretty big reason these oil companies are now going oh fuck! and putting resources into developing alternatives (like exxon, shell, chevron, el paso etc)

any company that survives solely on oil whether they refine, drill, explore, or service is already in trouble or heading there

[THECHICKEN]

We won't run out in my lifetime, and I guarandamntee you we'll have better technology for electricity by the time I'm an old geezer too.

Projections of current growth of consumption give us less than 20 years

But hey, im all for hoping "the future" saves the day.

[Seeker]

i believe peak oil is a myth and the oil companies are deliberately withholding supply by not building enough refineries... recent science shows old wells re-filling again, oil is made from a natural process within the earth

despite that, we still can't go on burning all the oil we do and polluting the environment, eventually we won't be able to live here any longer

[THECHICKEN]

i believe peak oil is a myth and the oil companies are deliberately withholding supply by not building enough refineries... recent science shows old wells re-filling again, oil is made from a natural process within the earth

despite that, we still can't go on burning all the oil we do and polluting the environment, eventually we won't be able to live here any longer

where have you hear oil wells "refilling"? I've never heard that.

-im googling by the way, don't bother with it lol im not "sourcing" you.

[impala454]

Speaking of sources, we've had in four posts (including myself) about how much oil we have left:

1. Don't think we'll run out in my lifetime
2. My BF KNOWS it's 50 years left
3. Projections say 20 years left
4. It's a myth that we'll run out at all

Just showing how absolutely certain we all are

[THECHICKEN]

So yeah, the "renewing" oil is purely in the Gulf, and it is just oil migrating in a highly fissured area....

Not that impressed. sounds like the land is very shaky to begin with.... hence why oil would be seeping into wells.

[Seeker]

props to you for doing your own research and forming your own conclusion

[Testm0nkey]

i never said my boyfriend knows like hes some magician, an oil company told him that during the interview process. and im willing to bet they know something about what they are saying

but ive heard about the supply lasting 50 years or less for years. look it up yourself!



im entirely too busy to post here what am i doing

[Hartmann]

i believe peak oil is a myth and the oil companies are deliberately withholding supply by not building enough refineries... recent science shows old wells re-filling again, oil is made from a natural process within the earth

despite that, we still can't go on burning all the oil we do and polluting the environment, eventually we won't be able to live here any longer

I have to disagree Lance. I think to some degree we see new oil created but nothing to scale to our use of it. Oil is created from a process involving pressure, heat, and time. The process takes hundreds of years and things decay, are pressurized, and forced to move to deeper depths (where the heat comes into play).

There is new technology that is bringing dead wells back to life but that technology can only get ~70% of the well cleaned out. So there is trapped oil that is not being brought to the surface and that's an issue the oil companies are trying to correct.

I've never heard 50 years from a reputable person and I'm in the industry. If sources stay untapped and technology does not continue to improve (like it has) then I would say yes, 50-75 years could be a decent estimate. Then again, no single person can definitively say as most of the oil companies only give estimates as to what their wells are capable of drilling and try not to release numbers as to actual production. It makes the whole thing a guessing game.

[impala454]

but ive heard about the supply lasting 50 years or less for years. look it up yourself!

I wasn't saying you were wrong, just thought it was interesting to point out that we had four different people with four completely different numbers.