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post Feb 27 2008, 12:20 PM
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So as I posted before, I'm taking Desrosiers for CS 1412. He's a dick.

Each week in lab we have a quiz. And the questions are usually either based on sheer memorization and usually pretty stupid. Last time in lab, the question was to write a program in PEN AND PAPER to use a SortedList (a generic class in C#) to do some stuff. No access to the book or MSDN either. He didn't cover it in lecture, it isn't in the assigned reading, but it was in a set of code samples he gave us (among 10 other samples). When the TA passed the quiz around, I saw a look of puzzlement amongst my fellow students. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who had no clue what to do here. In fact, literally half the lab cheated and looked things up on MSDN while the TA wasn't looking. I didn't, but I don't really blame the students that did.

Each week, the quiz is something more ridiculous than the one before it. And every time the quiz grades come back terrible, he blames us and tells us we need to read more.

Does anyone have any advice for me here? I could talk to Desrosiers, but I honestly don't know that it would do any good. Has anyone had much luck going over their professor's head and talking to the dept chair or anything of that nature?


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post Feb 27 2008, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 27 2008, 12:20 PM) *
So as I posted before, I'm taking Desrosiers for CS 1412. He's a dick.

Each week in lab we have a quiz. And the questions are usually either based on sheer memorization and usually pretty stupid. Last time in lab, the question was to write a program in PEN AND PAPER to use a SortedList (a generic class in C#) to do some stuff. No access to the book or MSDN either. He didn't cover it in lecture, it isn't in the assigned reading, but it was in a set of code samples he gave us (among 10 other samples). When the TA passed the quiz around, I saw a look of puzzlement amongst my fellow students. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who had no clue what to do here. In fact, literally half the lab cheated and looked things up on MSDN while the TA wasn't looking. I didn't, but I don't really blame the students that did.

Each week, the quiz is something more ridiculous than the one before it. And every time the quiz grades come back terrible, he blames us and tells us we need to read more.

Does anyone have any advice for me here? I could talk to Desrosiers, but I honestly don't know that it would do any good. Has anyone had much luck going over their professor's head and talking to the dept chair or anything of that nature?


Take an example of the quiz and the assigned reading list to them maybe?


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post Feb 27 2008, 12:44 PM
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D is one of those asshats who has about zero real world experience. Making CS students take quizzes and tests about specific code and such without access to references is downright stupid. If I didn't have internet access or MSDN, or at least some books, I'd be absolutely worthless to my company.

That said, I do feel that pseudocode tests and such are very good.

Honestly, the only professors there I had for CS/EE classes that had good real world experience that brought that to the classroom, was Dr Helm (mostly EE now I think, taught my CS ADP class), and Dr Cooke (duh).
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:44 PM) *
D is one of those asshats who has about zero real world experience. Making CS students take quizzes and tests about specific code and such without access to references is downright stupid. If I didn't have internet access or MSDN, or at least some books, I'd be absolutely worthless to my company.


Exactly. I hated this.

In the "real world" we use whatever resources we can find. The ability to gather and sift through information is a great skill.


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post Feb 27 2008, 01:04 PM
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I'm glad I got out of there before Desrosiers started teaching in the department

i've heard the horror stories
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post Feb 27 2008, 01:11 PM
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He started teaching in the department long before you got out of there.
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post Feb 27 2008, 01:45 PM
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all i know is i didn't have to take him for 1412/1413 which back then it was 1462/1463

i almost ended up taking him for scientific computing as a senior until i came to my senses, and i thought he was new to the department then cause i had never heard of him
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post Feb 28 2008, 12:01 AM
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Dr D is a former ChemE and a jerk. He applies how you deal with ChemE to CS.


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post Mar 6 2008, 12:14 AM
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He is a lool.


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post Mar 18 2008, 10:47 PM
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easy. transfer out of tech and get some real education.


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post Mar 18 2008, 11:15 PM
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Yeah because there aren't asshole professors at other universities. What a stupid fuckin thing to say.
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE (koreanp1e @ Mar 18 2008, 10:47 PM) *
easy. transfer out of tech and get some real education.


Judging from your constant assault on the English language, I can tell whatever school you transferred to was stellar academically


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post Mar 19 2008, 06:18 PM
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I'm sorry. I graduated from Tech and now pursuing grad study else where. Although tech has some good professors, from my personal experience, there are better educational experiences one can have by transferring out of tech and going to other places. I am glad I got out. Simply because I am learning something more exciting than regurgitating materials without clear understanding of first principles, which lots of department at tech do in their academic curricula.

if you aren't happy with what I said, deal with it.
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post Mar 20 2008, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (koreanp1e @ Mar 19 2008, 07:18 PM) *
I'm sorry. I graduated from Tech and now pursuing grad study else where. Although tech has some good professors, from my personal experience, there are better educational experiences one can have by transferring out of tech and going to other places. I am glad I got out. Simply because I am learning something more exciting than regurgitating materials without clear understanding of first principles, which lots of department at tech do in their academic curricula.

if you aren't happy with what I said, deal with it.
don't weagle off 'ye who don't spak engrish need to shut your hole' card at me.

How about you don't get your panties in a wad when you get razzed after dissing Texas Tech on a fucking Texas Tech message board full of Texas Tech students & graduates. mmmk?
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post Mar 20 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (koreanp1e @ Mar 19 2008, 07:18 PM) *
I'm sorry. I graduated from Tech and now pursuing grad study else where. Although tech has some good professors, from my personal experience, there are better educational experiences one can have by transferring out of tech and going to other places. I am glad I got out. Simply because I am learning something more exciting than regurgitating materials without clear understanding of first principles, which lots of department at tech do in their academic curricula.

if you aren't happy with what I said, deal with it.
don't weagle off 'ye who don't spak engrish need to shut your hole' card at me.
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