Liberals and Fascism Options

[Dogmeat]

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jonah_gol...2/17/73406.html

The Cult of Liberal Fascism

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:59 PM

By: Phil Brennan, Newsmax.com Article Font Size




“Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning”


Author: Jonah Goldberg


Publisher: Doubleday



Fascism, rather than being a right-wing phenomenon as liberals are so fond of claiming, is what underlies today’s liberal agenda.


And it is borrowed lock, stock, and barrel from Benito Mussolini’s fascist state and Hitler’s National Socialism, says Jonah Goldberg author of “Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.” [Editor’s Note: Get Jonah Goldberg’s book. Go here now.]


As the publishers note, the Nazis were socialists who, unlike conservatives, believed in free healthcare and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth, spent vast sums on education, drove religion from the public square replacing it with a new form of paganism, and inserted the power of government into every nook and cranny of daily life.


Goldberg feels that liberals are aligned against the tragic “wrong turn” society allegedly took when it rejected the beliefs that social and gender roles are not fixed; that tradition, religion and natural law have no binding power or authority over the individual’s will to power.


He writes that "nowhere is the idea of the Wrong Turn more starkly expressed in both National Socialist and temporary thought than in environmentalism … Man, liberals insist, has lost his harmony with nature, his way of life is inauthentic, corrupting, unnatural.”



Liberals demand the world’s belief in manmade global warming, despite many learned scientists’ contrary opinions. Environmentalism’s most fascist ingredient, Goldberg writes, is that “it is an invaluable ‘crisis mechanism.’ Al Gore constantly insists that global warming is the defining crisis of our time. Skeptics [of bandwagon liberal theories] are labeled traitors, Holocaust deniers, tools of ‘carbon interests.’”


He recalls how Gore appeared before Congress last year and told them, “the world has a fever” and explained that when your baby has a fever, you “take action. You do what the doctor says.” No time to debate, no room for argument. We must go beyond politics. In practical terms, this means we must surrender to the global nanny state and create the sort of “economic dictatorship” progressives yearn for.


Gore’s catastrophic global warming alarmism provides the perfect platform for the creation of a global authority that regulates just about every human activity, a prescription for an absolute global dictatorship.


In Nazi Germany, crises were dealt with militantly. Soft measures were not the way to deal with immediate problems, such as what the Nazis defined as the “Jewish question.”


According to Goldberg “The old critique of the Hebrew disease metastasized into an indictment of what could be called the human disease” — one of environmentalism’s chief bugaboos — overpopulation.



One of the defining characteristics of both Italian Fascism and Nazism was their need to use coercion to impose their political and philosophical agendas. It is no accident that the progressive programs advanced by today’s liberals all employ coercion of one form or another to implement them.


Above all, it is government that sits in the catbird seat for liberals, fascists, communists, and Nazis. Government is the final authority over everything from the economy, education, the practice of religion, and every form of human activity that can be subjected to centralized authority. Human rights come not from God, but from the state.


In a close examination of Hillary Clinton’s background Goldberg defines her as “a representative figure, the leading member of a generational cohort of elite liberals who [unconsciously of course] brought fascist themes into mainstream liberalism. Specifically, she and her cohort embody the maternal side of fascism which is one reason why it is not more clearly recognized as such.”

Excellent article.

I'm sure most of you will start clamoring on ... "B-b-b-b-but...! The neocons are selling us a fake war on terror! They're fascists too!"

Hmm.

So we have one party telling us that a bunch of psycho relegious nuts that we see on TV every single day and know for a fact are blowing the shit out of innocent people are real and we need to deal with them, and the other party denying this completley to drum up votes from morons.

Then, on the other side, we have one party preaching global doom and catastrophe if we don't surrender what's left of the US economy to foreign interests (wow great foreign policy there no wonder the rest of the world likes democrats) because somone had a thought that the planet was getting warmer.

Wow.

[pebkac]

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jonah_gol...2/17/73406.html
Excellent article.

I'm sure most of you will start clamoring on ... "B-b-b-b-but...! The neocons are selling us a fake war on terror! They're fascists too!"

Hmm.

So we have one party telling us that a bunch of psycho relegious nuts that we see on TV every single day and know for a fact are blowing the shit out of innocent people are real and we need to deal with them, and the other party denying this completley to drum up votes from morons.

Then, on the other side, we have one party preaching global doom and catastrophe if we don't surrender what's left of the US economy to foreign interests (wow great foreign policy there no wonder the rest of the world likes democrats) because somone had a thought that the planet was getting warmer.

Wow.

You ever hear of this lady called Ann Coulter? I hear she makes some good points about the 9/11 widows. Or hey, I hear this guy called Michael Moore makes some good points about gun control.

Although, I do have to admit Goldberg did have a very interesting appearance on the daily show:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jh...=jonah-goldberg

It's just too bad that everything he writes is pure hogwash with half thought out inferences.

[Dogmeat]

You ever hear of this lady called Ann Coulter? I hear she makes some good points about the 9/11 widows. Or hey, I hear this guy called Michael Moore makes some good points about gun control.

Although, I do have to admit Goldberg did have a very interesting appearance on the daily show:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jh...=jonah-goldberg

It's just too bad that everything he writes is pure hogwash with half thought out inferences.

Ann Coulter is an agent of the vast left-wing conspiracy. She's really an ultra-liberal hell-bent on making conservatives look bad.

She does a good job of it too unfortunatley

[Testm0nkey]

whatever the article says, your own post nullified any possible truth or logic

[Dogmeat]

whatever the article says, your own post nullified any possible truth or logic

No, not really.

I just think it's hilarious how brainwashed all the liberal whack jobs are. They actually think Al Gore is jesus ... heh

[The Fanatic]

Seriously


Just because the party was called National Socialism does not mean Hitler was a socialist


I mean hell, he blamed the burning of the Reichstag on communists! His movement was as far right as you can go.

[pebkac]

No, not really.

I just think it's hilarious how brainwashed all the liberal whack jobs are. They actually think Al Gore is jesus ... heh

And conservatives think Karl Rove is jesus.

[Dogmeat]

And conservatives think Karl Rove is jesus.

Truthfully, I would probably love the republican party if the Christian Coalition didn't have them in their back pocket.

That's the one thing that stops me from registering as a republican when I vote.

[Spectatrix]

The Republican party was good back before they got taken over by the Religious Right, before they decided to turn a blind eye to budget concerns (yes, Dem party does this too), and when they were still for small government.

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Ann Coulter is an agent of the vast left-wing conspiracy. She's really an ultra-liberal hell-bent on making conservatives look bad.

She does a good job of it too unfortunatley

In all actually this makes a little more sense than her actually believing in what she is saying...

However, what's sad is that there are still a lot of "Republicans" who BELIEVE IN WHAT SHE SAYS (that is why she can sell books).

[Testm0nkey]

No, not really.

I just think it's hilarious how brainwashed all the liberal whack jobs are. They actually think Al Gore is jesus ... heh

i said your post nullified whatever worth the article has because of statements like "liberals think al gore is jesus", the democrats dont believe terrorism exists or that there are innocent people being killed in the middle east "the other party (democrats) denying this completely", and i dont believe theres any democratic plan to give over america to a foreign country, and its also a lot more than one persons hunch that the planet is getting warmer

[Dogmeat]

i said your post nullified whatever worth the article has because of statements like "liberals think al gore is jesus", the democrats dont believe terrorism exists or that there are innocent people being killed in the middle east "the other party (democrats) denying this completely", and i dont believe theres any democratic plan to give over america to a foreign country, and its also a lot more than one persons hunch that the planet is getting warmer

Gee, ya think 8.5 billion people can't fucking tell if it's hot or cold outside?

[Spectatrix]

6.65 billion, not 8.5.

[Dogmeat]

either way, the bottom line is, evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

therefore, the republicans will win the next election and save the world while everying gripes about it and yet still somehow magically buys their oil.

WOO!

[pebkac]

This thread is funny! Somebody makes an argument then Dogmeat just makes another overbroad, misrepresenting generalization that totally misses the point.