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Feb 12 2008, 02:47 PM
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That's a fairly large assumption. Are you white? Do you expect us to cut off immigration? yes I'm white but I don't think that has anything to do about it. I just think it will happen just because racism is still alive and the "powers to be" wouldn't let it happen because of that reason. Just a reaction to present day observations. -------------------- ![]() |
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Feb 12 2008, 02:48 PM
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I agree. I was just asking his/her race to find out what side of the spectrum they were coming from. If a white person was making the argument that immigration would be cut off is different than a non-white person making the argument (at least to me). why would it be different? If anything a non-white person would probably come to the same conclusions because of their own personal oppressions...they would understand that racism is still around and that the whites in power wouldn't let it happen... -------------------- ![]() |
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Feb 12 2008, 02:57 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
animal species with longer periods of gestation and single births (they typically go hand in hand) are at higher risks of extinction then those that dont ie. animals that breed quicker. unless you meant whites as the animals that would get extincted! i was refering more to the idea that people who are smarter tend to reproduce less (1-2 children) but the poor and uneducated tend to reproduce way more. my implication was that smart people are getting bred out and are gonna go extinct. but yes, the whites in this scenario are ones getting extincted. -------------------- |
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Feb 12 2008, 02:59 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
why would it be different? If anything a non-white person would probably come to the same conclusions because of their own personal oppressions...they would understand that racism is still around and that the whites in power wouldn't let it happen... I just think that people would have enough common sense to understand that your point is overblown. Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration. In that case, is every person going to Europe or Australia to assume that the whites run the government? -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:04 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
I just think that people would have enough common sense to understand that your point is overblown. Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration. In that case, is every person going to Europe or Australia to assume that the whites run the government? i think non-rascist people still like to play the race card when it's convieniant for them /random -------------------- |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM
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I just think that people would have enough common sense to understand that your point is overblown. Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration. Ok by whites in power I mean the elites (which are mostly whites). I don't think it is overblow at all. Almost every single advanced country is having an immigration problem which is a big deal. With us it is Mexicans. Here in Scandinavia it's Muslims. Every country wants to protect/enforce some sort of cultural hegemony, and when the dominant class becomes a minority they can't do it as effictively. That's why Scandinavians are considering curbing immigration drastically (because of the recent influx) and that's why we would curb it and most likely stop it completely if we are ever in a type of position the article mentions. Hell, we've already done it once in our history at the turn of the 20th century... -------------------- ![]() |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:12 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE Hell, we've already done it once in our history at the turn of the 20th century... and we saw just how effective that was... -------------------- |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:16 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
get me the Great Wall of Texas, arm it with motorized Phalinx unit gatling guns, and create a law where "illegal immigrants have NO rights on american soil. (that'd make a nice "shoot on site" clause and get alot of our bored idle handed rednecks to make a border militia and have some target practice.
i see it that america is being invaded. and i want it stopped -------------------- |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:19 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
Ok by whites in power I mean the elites (which are mostly whites). I don't think it is overblow at all. Almost every single advanced country is having an immigration problem which is a big deal. With us it is Mexicans. Here in Scandinavia it's Muslims. Every country wants to protect/enforce some sort of cultural hegemony, and when the dominant class becomes a minority they can't do it as effictively. That's why Scandinavians are considering curbing immigration drastically (because of the recent influx) and that's why we would curb it and most likely stop it completely if we are ever in a type of position the article mentions. Hell, we've already done it once in our history at the turn of the 20th century... Hence my other thread about the west. Scandinavia also enforces their immigration laws pretty heavily so they have a head start. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:19 PM
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and we saw just how effective that was... regardless, the immigration levels were SIGNIFICANTLY less (proportionately) than what they are now and we were still motivated to curb/cut immigration. I stand by my statement, we would completely ban immigration if were in a situation like the article mentions. The government would never let it happen, I guarantee it. -------------------- ![]() |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:22 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
regardless, the immigration levels were SIGNIFICANTLY less (proportionately) than what they are now and we were still motivated to curb/cut immigration. I stand by my statement, we would completely ban immigration if were in a situation like the article mentions. The government would never let it happen, I guarantee it. wasn't there several mentions of bush approving of immigration or something? i can't fully remember and i'm not arguing with you on that point, i just wish that i remembered where those arguements were -------------------- |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:37 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
he was supporting the work visa thing. i dont know what happened to that. and i thought he was supporting the amnesty for current illegals and their families?
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Feb 12 2008, 03:47 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
he was supporting the work visa thing. i dont know what happened to that. and i thought he was supporting the amnesty for current illegals and their families? yea! i think you are right. my point of that is... when the government thinks that the immigrants are a good idea, what are the odds they will actually do what you say? blaarq? don't get me wrong, i support immigration, but it better be damn legal. mooching assbags -------------------- |
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Feb 12 2008, 03:51 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration. You've obviously never met my boyfriend. [off topic story] One time we went to Souper Salads. Of course I have to put a lot of meat and cheese on a salad to enjoy eating it. When I went back to the table, he took one look at it and said "That looks like a White Man's salad to me." [/off topic story] -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Feb 12 2008, 08:35 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
souper salad is the best
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