 tips for christians when they debate atheists |
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 Feb 5 2008, 09:19 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39  |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 02:05 AM)  since you've read so many I'm sure. and no, having mommy and daddy make you go to sunday school when you were a child doesn't mean you've read the bible. my parents never forced us to go to sunday school or church. my mom made a joke about being engulfed in flames upon entering the church for my nieces baptism. shes one of the spawns of satan. christian stories more boring than other religions' text: take the creation story for example. god created blah blah blah in so and so amount of time or a GIANT ice ox lived in a world divided between fire and ice and licked a giant frost giant out of an ice block who later spawned into gods which then killed the ice giant, cut him up in pieces and threw brains and entrails into the air to make the world on his corpse -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Feb 5 2008, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 11:09 PM) the Christian bible is the most boring religious text ever created. through some pizazz into the thing at least taoism has depth you should look into the apocrypha... they're books that were originally included in the bible but were thrown out in the early years because they support reincarnation and other far-east-style ideas |
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Feb 5 2008, 10:09 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 5 2008, 09:19 AM) my parents never forced us to go to sunday school or church. my mom made a joke about being engulfed in flames upon entering the church for my nieces baptism. shes one of the spawns of satan. christian stories more boring than other religions' text: take the creation story for example. god created blah blah blah in so and so amount of time or a GIANT ice ox lived in a world divided between fire and ice and licked a giant frost giant out of an ice block who later spawned into gods which then killed the ice giant, cut him up in pieces and threw brains and entrails into the air to make the world on his corpse frost giant you say?  Seriously though, do you believe the story more because it has fantastic creatures? |
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Feb 5 2008, 10:16 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 27-June 07 Member No.: 1,288 |
Did anyone ever see that old horror movie, "Jack Frost"? Had a young Shannon Elizabeth give a strip tease in it. Then the evil snow man fucked her with his carrot and she died.
-------------------- Fuckmuffin. That word and muffintop are the two coolest things I've ever seen on this place. What would happen if a fuckmuffin fucked a chick with a muffintop? That's a lot of muffins. A lot of motherfuffin muffuckins.
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Feb 5 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Feb 5 2008, 09:35 AM) you should look into the apocrypha... they're books that were originally included in the bible but were thrown out in the early years because they support reincarnation and other far-east-style ideas There are numerous reasons why certain texts were not included in the canons. For Old Testament books, ex. The book of Enoch, the book was used to try and explain something referenced earlier in text yet did more harm than good (ie. the book of Enoch tried to explain how Cain had a wife). In the New Testament certain books were excluded because they were obviously written after they were said to have been (the Apocryphan of James, The Gospel of Thomas). -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 5 2008, 11:18 AM
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this thread makes me gag...
I like to read VALUABLE literature. --------------------  |
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Feb 5 2008, 11:58 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (blaarg @ Feb 5 2008, 11:18 AM) this thread makes me gag... I like to read VALUABLE literature. Yeah, LoTR and self-help books are valuable  
-------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 5 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Feb 5 2008, 08:25 AM) I like to read sports non-fiction. Only worthwhile post in this thread --------------------   |
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Feb 5 2008, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 5 2008, 11:58 AM) Yeah, LoTR and self-help books are valuable Wow, considering my last post on the "what are you watching/reading" thread was Ulysses by Joyce, but LOTR and self-help books are a close second... ...I've got to thinking, it seems like the bible is a combination of the two... -------------------- |
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Feb 5 2008, 01:23 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (blaarg @ Feb 5 2008, 01:19 PM) Wow, considering my last post on the "what are you watching/reading" thread was Ulysses by Joyce, but LOTR and self-help books are a close second... ...I've got to thinking, it seems like the bible is a combination of the two... I wasn't making fun or anything, I just thought it would be a funny line. You are welcome to your opinion, but I very much disagree that the Bible is a self-help book for a simple reason, it clearly states you can't help yourself. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 5 2008, 02:39 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Watchman @ Feb 4 2008, 05:03 PM) You know, this post wouldn't normally be that funny, but after reading through that... I think the list is actually SERIOUS. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Feb 5 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 5 2008, 02:39 PM) You know, this post wouldn't normally be that funny, but after reading through that... I think the list is actually SERIOUS. I couldn't decide whether I thought it was serious or not. 
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Feb 5 2008, 04:04 PM
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Listen, you don't know the history of psychiatry, I do.
religious arguments always remind me of tom-cruise-type crazies. sometimes it seems like enlightenment writers like Paine, Voltaire and Hume did very little for long term views of religion. king james was a terrible king by christian standards, at least at the time. neither group should have members debating someone who does not want to debate. the point that Locke (religious and conservative) and many others make is that it is necessary to constantly challenge and question your beliefs in order to be fully developed as a religious person. i.e. it is necessary that logic and faith interact. but if you do not want to debate, the answer is much more simplistic and requires only avoidance. people who claim the first but fail to adhere to the latter have other agendas which supersede their proclaimed disinterest. in closing, rub-a-dub. |
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Feb 5 2008, 04:32 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 5 2008, 04:04 PM) in closing, rub-a-dub. 2 men in a tub? --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Feb 5 2008, 04:36 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE the point that Locke (religious and conservative) and many others make is that it is necessary to constantly challenge and question your beliefs in order to be fully developed as a religious person. i.e. it is necessary that logic and faith interact. Unfortunately, most people are dogmatic zealots when it concerns their ideology of religion/ non-religion. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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