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blaarg
post Nov 14 2007, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 01:07 AM) *
He's a christian... i don't get it. Most every politician is christian in some regard. Don't want to vote for a christian, dont... But i don't see how this guy is anymore conservative/christian than the next. Hes a conservative... and hes christian. His beliefs seem to follow that line of thinking. Nothing devilish about the guy though (not that i would neccesarily vote for him).


Yeah I can vote for a christian, just not someone who doesn't believe in evolution and thinks that god created the earth in 6 days. I think that tells a lot about a person's mental clarity...


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post Nov 14 2007, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 01:00 AM) *
are you kidding me?!?! you really think that all Christians believe in the literal interpretation of the bible regarding creation?

no, i meant 80% believe in God.

so, you believe that people who believe the earth was created in 6 days are religious zealots...but just being christian (which means you DO believe that jesus was the son of god in human flesh and came back from the dead, etc.) is ok?

because if you think the earth in 6 days thing is weird, you must believe the rest of it is crazy too...which i would assume means you believe all christians are religious zealots.


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post Nov 14 2007, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 01:09 AM) *
Yeah I can vote for a christian, just not someone who doesn't believe in evolution and thinks that god created the earth in 6 days. I think that tells a lot about a person's mental clarity...

i just don't understand your stance here. you can vote for a christian (someone who believes that men were raised from the dead) but you WON'T vote for someone who believes the earth was created in 6 days?


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post Nov 14 2007, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Nov 14 2007, 12:56 AM) *
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You really don't believe that certain traits in life have evolved to better the survival of certain species, etc., etc., etc.?

Also: Do you believe that the Earth is several billion years old, or merely a few thousand?

zach...read my last post. i said that i was stating this mainly for the devil's advocate approach.

as far as the earth being billions of years old or thousands? i have no idea. i'm not a scientist. i kinda see both sides. carbon-dating is known to not be that effective, so i dunno. it wouldn't really change my outlook on life either way. i mean, being christian, i believe in god. i don't know how exactly he created the world, but i believe he did in some way. whether it was through evolution, yes, it's possible! but who knows, maybe it happened another way. he could've created the earth in 6 days (through some means i have no way of comprehending), or maybe one day in god's eyes are thousands of years? no clue again.


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post Nov 14 2007, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ Nov 13 2007, 11:00 PM) *
I need to lead another Catholic Inquisition!!!
Starting on sending Duane back to Aruba :-P


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post Nov 14 2007, 07:54 AM
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Wait, can someone explain the "creationism" thing to me? I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, and we know they're all crackpots....but I don't remember them talking about how old they thought the earth was and all that. They just said God created the Earth, and made Eden...put Adam & Eve there, Eve ate the fruit/"peach" (code for vagina - I think she was a lesbo), blah blah blah blah.
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post Nov 14 2007, 08:14 AM
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Duane - Most Christians believe some interpretation of the creation story put forth in the Book of Genesis. Some believe it allegorically and think that there might have been God-guided evolution involved in creation. Others believe that God created everything as-is over some period of time, not treating the 6 "days" as literal 24-hr days. And yet others believe that everything was created in 6 24-hr days. Many of those are young earth creationists, who ALSO believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old (based on tracing genealogical lines through the Bible).

I personally think the young earthers are nutters.


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post Nov 14 2007, 09:41 AM
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Every true christian believes that jesus is the son of god (and actually god) who was resurrected (from death) which science says you can't do. So "logically" you wouldn't be "mental clear" by being a christian at all?

7 day easy bake earth, or god coming back from death, its all just christian belief... i still don't see how huckabee = crazy apples


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post Nov 14 2007, 10:15 AM
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Hey, but at least he's "Chuck Norris approved"!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/...orris-approved/


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post Nov 14 2007, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 09:41 AM) *
Every true christian believes that jesus is the son of god (and actually god) who was resurrected (from death) which science says you can't do. So "logically" you wouldn't be "mental clear" by being a christian at all?

7 day easy bake earth, or god coming back from death, its all just christian belief... i still don't see how huckabee = crazy apples

this is the point i'm trying to make as well.


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post Nov 14 2007, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 09:41 AM) *
Every true christian believes that jesus is the son of god (and actually god) who was resurrected (from death) which science says you can't do. So "logically" you wouldn't be "mental clear" by being a christian at all?

7 day easy bake earth, or god coming back from death, its all just christian belief... i still don't see how huckabee = crazy apples


your 100% right they both are fucking crazy. I guess I will have to choose between the less crazier ones who appear to be more rational by rejecting the biblical creationist stories until I get a candidate who reflects my personal beliefs (the lesser of two evils)...

lance, what's ron paul's stance?


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post Nov 14 2007, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 02:17 AM) *
as far as the earth being billions of years old or thousands? i have no idea. i'm not a scientist. i kinda see both sides.


wow.

you even recognizing that there is possibility of earth only being a couple of thousand years old is pretty astonishing (your ability to see "both sides" of a one sided issue)...


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post Nov 14 2007, 06:39 PM
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i think we've found our new billy
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post Nov 14 2007, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 05:49 PM) *
lance, what's ron paul's stance?

I'm not Lance, but apparently Ron Paul believes in evolution:

http://www.shanktified.com/archives/ron-pa...n-on-evolution/


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post Nov 14 2007, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 14 2007, 06:39 PM) *
i think we've found our new billy


The old one is still here and he is pleased.


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