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jonathan83
post Nov 13 2007, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 13 2007, 05:11 PM) *
Wow, Wiki's a great resource. Seems like most of the presidential families are related to each other somehow.

yeah but that doesn't mean anything. i think if you find 2 random people in the US, chances are they're 4th cousins..or something like that.


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post Nov 13 2007, 08:17 PM
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Yeah, I know. I still think it's funny, though.

But hell, I barely see/talk to my first cousins, much less all the others (in fact, all of my second cousins I either don't know or hate with a fiery passion).


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post Nov 13 2007, 08:34 PM
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i dont think i have cousins? i guess that saves me from some family turmoil


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post Nov 13 2007, 08:44 PM
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Oh, you almost certainly have cousins of some kind or another. Maybe not first cousins, but some kind down the line.

On a side note, I would always get irked when people would refer to my mom's cousin as my "Aunt" Kathy. I think people were surprised to hear a young kid say "she's not my aunt, she's my first cousin once removed".

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post Nov 13 2007, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 13 2007, 08:34 PM) *
i dont think i have cousins? i guess that saves me from some family turmoil

yeah you might not have 1st cousins. but for example, your mom's or dad's 1st cousins would be your 2nd cousins, etc.

maybe some of us on techsans are cousins! actually, everyone is related to each other to a certain degree...somewhere down the line.


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post Nov 13 2007, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:21 PM) *
yeah you might not have 1st cousins. but for example, your mom's or dad's 1st cousins would be your 2nd cousins, etc.

maybe some of us on techsans are cousins! actually, everyone is related to each other to a certain degree...somewhere down the line.

Actually her mom and dad's 1st cousins would be her 1st cousins, once removed. The kids of their 1st cousins would be her 2nd cousins. Gotta match up generations or else it's once, twice, thrice removed, etc.


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post Nov 13 2007, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 13 2007, 11:11 PM) *
Actually her mom and dad's 1st cousins would be her 1st cousins, once removed. The kids of their 1st cousins would be her 2nd cousins. Gotta match up generations or else it's once, twice, thrice removed, etc.

you just gave me a horrible flashback to my Wills and Estates mid-term....


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post Nov 14 2007, 12:39 AM
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i never understood the whole "once removed" stuff.


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post Nov 14 2007, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 12:39 AM) *
i never understood the whole "once removed" stuff.

once removed means one below you (like your sons generation... but however many cousins over)

so a 2nd cousin once removed would be: Your great grand parents have a 2 kids... one becomes your grand parent the other doesn't. The kid that didn't become your grandparent has a kid (that is your fathers generation), they in turn have a kid (your generation), and then they have a kid (one below you)... and thats your 2nd cousin once removed

confused? yeah, its so much easier in a chart


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post Nov 14 2007, 02:01 AM
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ahhh that makes sense.

i always thought the cousin of my mom would be my 2nd cousin...and then the kid of my mom's cousin would be my 3rd cousin.

but this way makes more sense...


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post Nov 14 2007, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 13 2007, 11:15 PM) *
you just gave me a horrible flashback to my Wills and Estates mid-term....

Wills and Estates should be subtitled.

Wills and Estates: Nap Time!

Everyone I know in Law School that's done W&E says it's the most boring class, ever. And I asked people with different prof's, so yah. Either the profs are boring or the subject matter is boring.


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post Nov 14 2007, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 01:15 AM) *
once removed means one below you (like your sons generation... but however many cousins over)

so a 2nd cousin once removed would be: Your great grand parents have a 2 kids... one becomes your grand parent the other doesn't. The kid that didn't become your grandparent has a kid (that is your fathers generation), they in turn have a kid (your generation), and then they have a kid (one below you)... and thats your 2nd cousin once removed

confused? yeah, its so much easier in a chart

One generation above or below.

Chart!



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post Nov 14 2007, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 14 2007, 08:26 AM) *
One generation above or below.

Chart!


Actually removed means down.... from what we were taught for the different systems of inheritence through hiers. and thats not a very good chart, ours had one person to start from, and told you what the persons were called three generations out etc.


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post Nov 14 2007, 09:25 AM
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm.../CousinTree.svg

Here's a little bit easier to read chart.

Essentially, your second cousin is your cousin's cousin. A cousin once removed is a cousin one generation above or below you.

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post Nov 14 2007, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 14 2007, 09:25 AM) *
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm.../CousinTree.svg

Here's a little bit easier to read chart.

Essentially, your second cousin is your cousin's cousin. A cousin once removed is a cousin one generation above or below you.

If im not mistaken... you'd just call that ... an uncle (if above)

So that when you say "once removed" you know what the term means (as in going below)

Maybe i caught something wrong, but usually once removed up would just be called a "second uncle" for example, and not "2nd cousin, once removed"

and 2nd grandfather, etc. no "removed" until below you.

your charts only showed "cousins" which i don't know why you'd do it that way


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