Texas Secession Options

[impala454]

This seems fitting for this thread right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4xs3wQusjo

heheh cool. i have a huge collection of all (i think it's all of em) of those bud light commercials in mp3. if anyone wants em lemme know and i'll try to zip em up and put it up somewhere.

So, we could suddenly afford our own "Texas Sized"(added that in to be facetious, obviously) military?
Do those that support succession believe that things would be better or worse than now for the general populace of Texas? What style government would you want and do you feel there would be enough support for said government to function?

I think we'd have a very powerful military. We are a huge state and no doubt have a lot of folks in the armed forces that would come over with the secession. We have a pretty good infrastructure with bases and such (it's not like the U.S. could just uproot a base and take it with them). We have most of the aerospace and weapons companies, and a huge stockpile of U.S. nuclear weapons are in Amarillo. We're still strategically placed, between the U.S and Mexico. I would forsee a possible war with Mexico as their corrupt ass govt could possibly think they could take us over again... that could be interesting depending on who the U.S. would back.

I think democracy would work fine. It's already practiced and Texas state law is already very indicative of the population's views (obviously much more conservative in general than the rest of the U.S.).

Considering most of those "Republic of Texas" numbnuts are racists, inbred, pricks...I don't know how much they'd support a real democracy.

Well I don't think the Republic of Texas proponents have much of a following really.

[impala454]

This is the same exact issue that led to the Civil War, most of you think it was about slavery but the issue was State's rights. It's time for another Civil War or a revolution!

well it was really about a combo of the two, the states wanted to control their own slave trade.

[impala454]

really interesting poll results so far... 8/10 say they'd live in Texas if it seceded, yet only 4/10 think it should secede

[Psykopath]

I think we'd have a very powerful military. We are a huge state and no doubt have a lot of folks in the armed forces that would come over with the secession.

Would the US government suddenly allow a chunk of the military to go AWOL?

We have a pretty good infrastructure with bases and such (it's not like the U.S. could just uproot a base and take it with them).

They'd leave the base, but take all of the US MILITARY equipment.

We have most of the aerospace and weapons companies, and a huge stockpile of U.S. nuclear weapons are in Amarillo.

...yep. Guess the US would allow a just succeeded state to keep those, right?

We're still strategically placed, between the U.S and Mexico. I would forsee a possible war with Mexico as their corrupt ass govt could possibly think they could take us over again... that could be interesting depending on who the U.S. would back.

I'd see the US sitting it out thinking we'd ask for their help then swooping in to make the save with the clause that we re-enter the Union.
Though it's Mexico...I feel Texas could at least hold its own, given the necessary military equipment/training was there.

I think democracy would work fine. It's already practiced and Texas state law is already very indicative of the population's views (obviously much more conservative in general than the rest of the U.S.).
Well I don't think the Republic of Texas proponents have much of a following really.

Yeah, but I'd fear certain "Christian morality" laws would come into play. Morality police peeping in bedrooms and such...oh wait, already happened.

[Spectatrix]

This is the same exact issue that led to the Civil War, most of you think it was about slavery but the issue was State's rights. It's time for another Civil War or a revolution!

Difference is, opinions on slavery were fairly strongly defined by geographic lines. Abortion and legalizing marijuana, really not so much.

[cmac]

that could be interesting depending on who the U.S. would back.

U.S., in its current state, would attack Canada.

[impala454]

Would the US government suddenly allow a chunk of the military to go AWOL?
They'd leave the base, but take all of the US MILITARY equipment.
...yep. Guess the US would allow a just succeeded state to keep those, right?
I'd see the US sitting it out thinking we'd ask for their help then swooping in to make the save with the clause that we re-enter the Union.
Though it's Mexico...I feel Texas could at least hold its own, given the necessary military equipment/training was there.

Well but then again how much has the state of texas contributed to those weapons/equipment? how many texas residents currently in the military would leave texas just to stay in the US military? it's a really interesting topic I think, because it's not an everyday occurence. the U.S. could not take every desk and computer and stapler and rifle from this state that has a U.S. stamp on it. they also wouldn't want to have bad relations with us, especially considering we control the largest oil refining area in the area, as well as huge shipping industry.

Yeah, but I'd fear certain "Christian morality" laws would come into play. Morality police peeping in bedrooms and such...oh wait, already happened.

that was not in texas...

U.S., in its current state, would attack Canada.

so you're saying if Texas seceded, the U.S. would attack Canada??

[Psykopath]

that was not in texas...

random google searching:

http://www.sodomylaws.org/lawrence/lawrence.htm


Heh...sodomylaws.org.

[Oasis]

Marginally good idea in theory, would never work though. Plus, I don't particularly like the federal government. I don't need a reason to dislike Texas, and I would if we were our own nation

[cmac]

i'm making fun of the bush administration.

[impala454]

random google searching:

http://www.sodomylaws.org/lawrence/lawrence.htm
Heh...sodomylaws.org.

i figured you were referring to the senator craig thing. sodomy laws wouldn't bother me though.

[cupcake]

It's time for another Civil War or a revolution!

I have a feeling we will see a movement for change of some sort in our lifetime...

[impala454]

probably sooner rather than later if hilary is elected and we end up with a democrat controlled congress.

[Spectatrix]

sodomy laws wouldn't bother me though.

Really? You think the government has business regulating the private sexual lives of consenting adults? That's what sodomy laws amount to...

Or do you just mean they wouldn't impact you personally?

This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Oct 5 2007, 03:20 PM

[cupcake]

cannonball's vision for the United Texas of Texas:

-open carry gun rights. permit for concealed only (like AZ).
-1oz decriminalized personal maryjane (like canada).
-border wall that makes china's look like a chain-link fence.
-1 mexican/illegal slave per household. 2 if household is over 6 people. hey we can't deport em all, and they sure as fuck shouldn't be rewarded for breaking our laws.
-public executions...like halftime at a ball game. hanging? guillatine? I think we could stomach it.
-85mph speed limit on highways.
-TFL...texas football league. eventually the NFL would be reduced to what soccer is today.
-legalize MX bikes for street riding. I'm not talking about those halfass dual purpose bikes, I'm talking like YZ250's and shit. gridlock would be a distant memory. set up jumps along the side of I-35...Fuck it, it's your life.
-18 drinking age.
-beer sold at college games. beer sold at fast food joints. beer at movie theaters. basically, beer sold everywhere.
-more cheerleaders. like at work...or in congress. we have so many hot chicks we could make this happen.
-Texas Rangers are only federal law enforcement...crooked ass FBI/CIA/NSA...fuckin SEE YA! don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
-Currency would have heros of the alamo and old west. coins would have outlaws.

we'd rule.