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| Texas Secession |
 Oct 5 2007, 12:01 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48  |
So this was brought up on the radio yesterday. Apparently there movements in several states (Alaska, Hawaii, and a few others... lol Vermont?) and just about everyone who called in agreed that it'd be a great idea and they think we could succeed as our own nation. What do you guys think?
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Oct 5 2007, 12:04 PM
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 Group: Moderators Posts: 1,591 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 31 |
i'd love to see the u.s. get rid of texas.
no, no, yes. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Oct 5 2007, 12:04 PM
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I voted yes on all 3 counts.
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Oct 5 2007, 12:06 PM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 1,591 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 31 |
i think alaska could be the only one that might have a chance succeeding at seceding.
vermont. really...? This post has been edited by cmac: Oct 5 2007, 12:07 PM -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Oct 5 2007, 12:06 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I thought the idea of vermont seceding would be hilarious.
I could see Hawaii seceding, they're basically their own country anyways.. |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:15 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,795 Joined: 29-September 06 Member No.: 327 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:06 PM)  I thought the idea of vermont seceding would be hilarious. I could see Hawaii seceding, they're basically fixed |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:16 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
no, no, no
We lost the ability to succeed when we re-entered the union following the civil war. We'd be one fucked "nation" if we did somehow find a way to succeed (without a forceful resistance from the federal government). Loss of federal funds = higher taxes or MASSIVE drop in services. -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:18 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,795 Joined: 29-September 06 Member No.: 327 |
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we currently don't pay state taxes. our federal tax we pay would just roll over to texas is we seceded. |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:25 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 5 2007, 01:18 PM) ? we currently don't pay state taxes. our federal tax we pay would just roll over to texas is we seceded. Think those rolled over taxes on their own would be able to suddenly support ever facet of a nation's fiscal responsibility? -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:28 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,795 Joined: 29-September 06 Member No.: 327 |
hell if I know...
I know this state's GDP would be outrageous though. We're carrying the load of nonhackers like new mexico and other halfass states. |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:34 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,795 Joined: 29-September 06 Member No.: 327 |
In 2006, Texas had a gross state product of $1.09 trillion...from wiki
that is not including the tax we could levy on our exports. |
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Oct 5 2007, 12:35 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I believe I heard during the discussion yesterday that if Texas was counted as its own nation, we would have the 10th highest GDP in the world.
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Oct 5 2007, 01:16 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
This seems fitting for this thread right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4xs3wQusjo So, we could suddenly afford our own "Texas Sized"(added that in to be facetious, obviously) military? Do those that support succession believe that things would be better or worse than now for the general populace of Texas? What style government would you want and do you feel there would be enough support for said government to function? Considering most of those "Republic of Texas" numbnuts are racists, inbred, pricks...I don't know how much they'd support a real democracy. 
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Oct 5 2007, 01:28 PM
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States wouldn't have to secede if the Union wouldn't try to trump States rights, for example... let the States that want to have abortion legal have it legal and let the States that want abortion illegal have it illegal.
When the U.S. was formed the Federal government was supposed to be extremely limited and anything not explicitly granted to the Federal government in the constitution is decided by the States. Nowadays you have the Federal government telling everyone how to live their life. California wants medical marijuana to be legal and has voted to make it legal, but the Feds come in and bust legal California grow houses. If California wants marijuana to be legal then more power to them, the Federal government shouldn't be telling them what to do. This is the same exact issue that led to the Civil War, most of you think it was about slavery but the issue was State's rights. It's time for another Civil War or a revolution! |
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Oct 5 2007, 01:30 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
yes, yes (well, maybe, depends on what was implemented), no
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