 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
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| Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
 Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
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I don't have a link but it shouldn't be difficult to find. Apparently here in Texas we're halting executions because some dipshit judge decided to rule lethal injection as "cruel & unusual punishment". WTF is cruel & unusual about it!!??
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Oct 3 2007, 08:15 AM
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 Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
Maybe we forgot to tell him we alcohol swab the arm before we do the injection?
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Oct 3 2007, 08:21 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yeah the radio is talking about it and the host goes "i guess we'll have to stop all hospitals and doctors from using needles since it's cruel & unusual"
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Oct 3 2007, 08:22 AM
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Who gives a fuck? We're killing losers
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Oct 3 2007, 08:23 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Oasis @ Oct 3 2007, 07:22 AM)  Who gives a fuck? We're killing losers But one out of many may, MAY, be innocent. We have to stop all of it to save the one! -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2007, 08:24 AM
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death penalty is cruel and unusual
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Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
it was even more cruel & unusual for these people to murder/rape multiple people
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Oct 3 2007, 08:28 AM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Cmac got it. The argument is not whether the method of execution is cruel and unusual but rather the practice itself. (I think most people would agree that lethal injection is probably one of the most humane ways to execute an individual.) I personally don't think the practice of executing individuals is cruel and unusual but I disagree with implementing that punishment in most cases (serial killers and certain other criminals need to be put to death). There are probably better and cheaper ways (appeals are expensive) to punish most convicts who would normally be executed. Just my opinion.
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Oct 3 2007, 08:31 AM
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I say put the convicts to work like they used to. And I mean real work, not stamping out license plates.
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Oct 3 2007, 08:32 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:28 AM) Cmac got it. The argument is not whether the method of execution is cruel and unusual but rather the practice itself. no, it's actually about whether or not lethal injection itself is cruel and unusual, here i found an article: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5181963.html QUOTE AUSTIN — The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals on Tuesday halted today's scheduled execution of a Honduran man and asked the state prison system to respond to questions about whether lethal injection is unconstitutionally cruel and unusual punishment.
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Oct 3 2007, 08:35 AM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Hmm, interesting. My point still stands, I can't see how that punishment would be ruled to be cruel and unusual unless the courts found that all forms of execution fell under that blanket statement.
And yes, I agree Hartmann. Put them to work in the cotton fields! -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 3 2007, 08:36 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
gah and i posted the article and everything...
QUOTE On Sept. 25, the U.S. Supreme Court decided to review a Kentucky appeal claiming the three-chemical combination that's also used in Texas executions causes unnecessary pain shortly before death. heaven forbid some murderer feel some pain before dying. |
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Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 1,591 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 31 |
QUOTE I say put the convicts to work like they used to. And I mean real work, not stamping out license plates. I agree with this. I think that jails are overcrowded. I think that there are waaaaaay too many inmates who or guilty of victimless crimes who are in jail. Take those out and we can keep the killers in for life. I also think that jails shouldn't be luxury places to hang out though. Jails are often steps up for several prisoners and that needs to change. People shouldn't want to go to jail. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:35 AM) And yes, I agree Hartmann. Put them to work in the cotton fields! I'm completely serious. As a country, we complain that we have no one that wants to do the dirty work and that our blue collar work force has dwindled, just use the convicts. Pay them less than minimum wage to do jobs that are usually filled with illegal immigrants (strawberry picking comes to mind) and we've solved two problems in one swift move. We move inmates that have good behavior to better facilities (then they escape), so give them a slightly better job instead. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Oct 3 2007, 08:43 AM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 3 2007, 09:40 AM) I'm completely serious. As a country, we complain that we have no one that wants to do the dirty work and that our blue collar work force has dwindled, just use the convicts. Pay them less than minimum wage to do jobs that are usually filled with illegal immigrants (strawberry picking comes to mind) and we've solved two problems in one swift move. We move inmates that have good behavior to better facilities (then they escape), so give them a slightly better job instead. I am also serious. I completely agree with you. While we are at it, let's take away luxuries like the TV. This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Oct 3 2007, 08:44 AM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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