Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Options

[Hartmann]

I am also serious. I completely agree with you.

While we are at it, let's take away luxuries like the TV.

Amen.

This Ted Koppel (who I don't like) special on the prison system paints it as this horrible, horrible place, yet these guys have cable and access to the internet.

[impala454]

i like how that former general dude in arizona has that big tent prison out in the desert. i still maintain though that if someone does something heinous enough (multiple murders, rapes, etc) they deserve the death penalty.

[cupcake]

death penalty is cruel and unusual

someone move this to the "further pussification" thread...

[pebkac]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_inject...guments_against

The argument is that inmates are actually in excruciating pain but cannot express it because one of the drugs paralyzes them.

[impala454]

/tear

[Spectatrix]

I don't have much pity for convicted murderers and rapists, but I do believe that we have a moral obligation to ensure that their state-administered deaths are not exceedingly painful. We should not be in the business of torture.

Now I don't know for sure whether lethal injection is excrutiatingly painful, as opponents claim. I'd like to see more research done into this.

[impala454]

well imho no real research is needed. if they die quickly, then they didn't have pain for long.

[RitalinJunkie]

bring back the firing squad....its cheaper....

one of my main problems with execution is that it is soo expensive. With all the appeals and such it ends up being more expensive than keeping the guy in jail for life.

I agree that execution needs to be as least painful as possible, because like Spec said (i believe) we are not in the torture business, however, i cant bring myself to feel sorry that some child raping murderer may get a "booboo" while we off the sick shit.

Hell....why not just bolt gun the sonovabitch. It's humane enough for animals, and animals get better representation in the law than people a lot of times, it seems.

[THECHICKEN]

This will be over-ruled... i would assume

The death penalty IS constitutional, so the only way that judges can try to be legislatures is to rule the PRACTICE cruel and unusual... which leads to shit like this.

This is just like the judge telling the military it can't do military training because of the (speculative) effect on whales (hope this doesn't get me banned again...lol)

This is something that is POLICY more than anything, and legislature should be the one making the decision.

And im AGAINST the death penalty

[cupcake]

I don't have much pity for convicted murderers and rapists, but I do believe that we have a moral obligation to ensure that their state-administered deaths are not exceedingly painful. We should not be in the business of torture.

Now I don't know for sure whether lethal injection is excrutiatingly painful, as opponents claim. I'd like to see more research done into this.

I agree to an extent. Death does not have to be painful. However, we like to make ourselves feel good about doing dirty deeds (which is REALLY where all this is coming from).

I mean, if we truly cared about a quick and painless death we would blindfold them, and stick a .45 to their temple (at 14 cents a round mind you). The condemned would never feel a thing.

But that is gruesome, and we would harbor horrible feelings seeing grey matter splattered everywhere after that ear-ringing BANG...

the cleanest method we can execute someone is by lethal injection (though I'm sure it's far more painful...like burning and shit). but hey, it makes us feel better because there isn't a huge mess of shit to clean up!

[RitalinJunkie]

the cleanest method we can execute someone is by lethal injection (though I'm sure it's far more painful...like burning and shit). but hey, it makes us feel better because there isn't a huge mess of shit to clean up!

I know this is kind of a brandon thing to say....but, you know, all you need is a tile floor, a drain, and a hose. Convict dies quickly in a relatively humane way, clean up is easy, and its really cheap.

[cupcake]

tarp...just wrap that fucker up and dump it all in a coffin!

[pebkac]

I agree to an extent. Death does not have to be painful. However, we like to make ourselves feel good about doing dirty deeds (which is REALLY where all this is coming from).

I mean, if we truly cared about a quick and painless death we would blindfold them, and stick a .45 to their temple (at 14 cents a round mind you). The condemned would never feel a thing.

But that is gruesome, and we would harbor horrible feelings seeing grey matter splattered everywhere after that ear-ringing BANG...

the cleanest method we can execute someone is by lethal injection (though I'm sure it's far more painful...like burning and shit). but hey, it makes us feel better because there isn't a huge mess of shit to clean up!

Actually, that's why they give you the drug that paralyzes you. Without it, the inmate would be having all kinds of seizures.

[THECHICKEN]

I agree to an extent. Death does not have to be painful. However, we like to make ourselves feel good about doing dirty deeds (which is REALLY where all this is coming from).

I mean, if we truly cared about a quick and painless death we would blindfold them, and stick a .45 to their temple (at 14 cents a round mind you). The condemned would never feel a thing.

But that is gruesome, and we would harbor horrible feelings seeing grey matter splattered everywhere after that ear-ringing BANG...

the cleanest method we can execute someone is by lethal injection (though I'm sure it's far more painful...like burning and shit). but hey, it makes us feel better because there isn't a huge mess of shit to clean up!

They put them to sleep before putting in the death medicine (because without being asleep it would hurt like a son-of-a-bitch)

[cupcake]

They put them to sleep before putting in the death medicine (because without being asleep it would hurt like a son-of-a-bitch)

right, but recently there was a case where it didn't take and the condemned was visibly in pain and just hanging out for half an hour. I believe that is where the contreversy is stemming from. (admittedly haven't read the articles posted, as I've been following that botched execution).

I hate incompetance.