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Grif
post Oct 4 2007, 09:53 PM
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guess this could also go in the Nerdry

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9143

The woman's defense was kinda stupid though in this case. "There is no proof it was her" despite the fact that she used the same user name at several other websites.
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post Oct 5 2007, 12:36 AM
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yeah I think it is pretty obvious that she broke the law.
I can't believe the record company wanted to make a point by suing a mother of 2 though...


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post Oct 5 2007, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE (Grif @ Oct 4 2007, 10:53 PM) *
The woman's defense was kinda stupid though in this case. "There is no proof it was her" despite the fact that she used the same user name at several other websites.

yeah but think of how many people there are that use the internet. don't you think it's possible for other people to have the same username as her?


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post Oct 5 2007, 11:18 AM
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Record labels are outdated institutions. They know this and are doing everything to prolong the inevitable.

Seriously, it would be so much better for the artists if they could just give their music away. They make most of their money off of touring anyway.


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post Oct 5 2007, 11:31 AM
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yeah, why should someone be paid for their work...
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post Oct 5 2007, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 12:31 PM) *
yeah, why should someone be paid for their work...


I really don't think you're comprehending the argument I just made...

I wasn't arguing that people shouldn't get paid for work they rightfully did.

I'm arguing that record labels do work that isn't necessary and then expect to get paid for it. Record labels' existence makes the music industry worse for everyone, artists especially.


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post Oct 5 2007, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 5 2007, 12:42 PM) *
I really don't think you're comprehending the argument I just made...

I wasn't arguing that people shouldn't get paid for work they rightfully did.

I'm arguing that record labels do work that isn't necessary and then expect to get paid for it. Record labels' existence makes the music industry worse for everyone, artists especially.

making albums isn't necessary for artists to make money?
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post Oct 5 2007, 11:54 AM
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radiohead is giving their new album away. or you can pay what you think it's worth.


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post Oct 5 2007, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 5 2007, 12:54 PM) *
radiohead is giving their new album away. or you can pay what you think it's worth.

I am all for this type of thinking. I am the type who would pay $20-30 for an album if I felt it was really good. Or if I find some great little software app that I really like and use all the time, and the person has a paypal donate link, I'll throw $5-10 their way.

I just don't think that someone should feel they have to give their stuff away.
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post Oct 5 2007, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:04 PM) *
I am all for this type of thinking. I am the type who would pay $20-30 for an album if I felt it was really good. Or if I find some great little software app that I really like and use all the time, and the person has a paypal donate link, I'll throw $5-10 their way.

I just don't think that someone should feel they have to give their stuff away.


I never said they should. I wouldn't have a problem paying for an album either if I knew all or even most of the proceeds would go to the artist. But the problem is that the artist only gets a little bit of the money they make off of an album.

Besides that, this is the internet age. If artists want to sell their music, they can do it themselves.

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post Oct 5 2007, 09:10 PM
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musicians get an allowance from a record company to make an album. that is a loan that has to be paid back BY the artist. for the most part major labels are middle men squeezing people for cash.
major artists make waaaaaay more off touring but record sales is where company profits come from. so sure not having these labels, label reps and owners would lose their money. but they are millionaires anyway. producers, mixers, stage bands can/do get their pay from the artists anyways

i knew a fairly popular band though far from "major" britney spears major and their allowance was $5bucks a day from the label. where they slept at night was out of their own pocket and that 5 bucks was all they got and it went to food. i believe they had to pay for the gas in the tour van


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QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 5 2007, 10:03 PM) *
I never said they should. I wouldn't have a problem paying for an album either if I knew all or even most of the proceeds would go to the artist. But the problem is that the artist only gets a little bit of the money they make off of an album.

Besides that, this is the internet age. If artists want to sell their music, they can do it themselves.

the album label does a lot more than just sell albums. they perform all of the recording and studio work. you guys just hate the record labels because they're against music stealing.
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post Oct 5 2007, 09:15 PM
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a lot of artists pay for their own recording because they have their own contacts with producers and such. a posse if you will. though some labels force the artist to work with a certain person so they get more money


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