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post Aug 22 2007, 08:07 AM
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So for all the death penalty proponents, what do you think should have been done to Zacarius Moussaoui (the only guy convicted of the 9/11 attacks) who WANTED to get executed for "the cause"

They gave him life for his punishment.

Right decision?


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post Aug 22 2007, 12:46 PM
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fuck the EU

fuck the UN

fuck NAFTA

and fuck every other foreign entity that thinks their opinion regarding the governing of America (or Texas in this case) holds any weight.

we didn't vote for those fucks. and they aren't Americans.

they are delusional.
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post Aug 22 2007, 01:14 PM
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For a somewhat "conservative" guy I am torn on the death penalty. It seems right to punish someone for their deeds, but at the same time, I do not think it is right for me to argue pro-life and pro-death penalty arguments at the same time.

I would be much more content if the state refined the penal system so that criminals had to work while incarcerated. Make them pick crops, pick up trash, repair roads, etc.


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post Aug 22 2007, 01:33 PM
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life in prison is a lot worse than the death penalty (that is, if you're not christian)
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post Aug 22 2007, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (1up @ Aug 22 2007, 02:33 PM) *
life in prison is a lot worse than the death penalty (that is, if you're not christian)


Why if you're not Christian? No one wants to die.


And, life in prison is easy when you talk to my uncle who is a former corrections officer. Inmates received decent food, a full library, cable TV, $$$, cigarettes, etc.

If you think prison is worse because of something the History Channel aired, then you need to have a sit down conversation with my uncle. Yeah, there are gang fights and stuff like that, but that stuff is in the real world, but you don't see people committing mass suicide because they can't handle it.


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post Aug 22 2007, 03:11 PM
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There was a gang fight at work yesterday. Good thing I hang out with the Mexicans because they severely fucked shit up.


Food, TV, cigarettes, books can't make up for living in a 8x9 cell and having to deal with violent criminals for the rest of my life.


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post Aug 22 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (Fedor @ Aug 22 2007, 04:11 PM) *
There was a gang fight at work yesterday. Good thing I hang out with the Mexicans because they severely fucked shit up.
Food, TV, cigarettes, books can't make up for living in a 8x9 cell and having to deal with violent criminals for the rest of my life.


Where the fuck do you work, was this at your "import/export" business? I guess shit happens when a deal goes bad.
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post Aug 22 2007, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Aug 22 2007, 03:39 PM) *
Why if you're not Christian? No one wants to die.
And, life in prison is easy when you talk to my uncle who is a former corrections officer. Inmates received decent food, a full library, cable TV, $$$, cigarettes, etc.

If you think prison is worse because of something the History Channel aired, then you need to have a sit down conversation with my uncle. Yeah, there are gang fights and stuff like that, but that stuff is in the real world, but you don't see people committing mass suicide because they can't handle it.


Because if you're not Christian (or Muslim) you're more than likely Atheist so once you die that's it, no suffering after death, you just don't exist. Or you could be of the Far East persuasion and believe in reincarnation, therefore you would probably rather just start a new life instead of being stuck in prison for life.

The only people who actually support the death penalty are Christians/Muslims because they think the accused will be sent to hell to suffer even worse than life in prison (which is ridiculous btw).

In the case of Musims they actually want to die because they think they'll be sent to heaven with 49 virgins. Life in prison for them is much more torture than the death penalty.

And I don't think life in prison is that easy, unless you enjoy teh butt-secks.
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post Aug 22 2007, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (1up @ Aug 22 2007, 04:19 PM) *
Because if you're not Christian (or Muslim) you're more than likely Atheist so once you die that's it, no suffering after death, you just don't exist. Or you could be of the Far East persuasion and believe in reincarnation, therefore you would probably rather just start a new life instead of being stuck in prison for life.

The only people who actually support the death penalty are Christians/Muslims because they think the accused will be sent to hell to suffer even worse than life in prison (which is ridiculous btw).

In the case of Musims they actually want to die because they think they'll be sent to heaven with 49 virgins. Life in prison for them is much more torture than the death penalty.

And I don't think life in prison is that easy, unless you enjoy teh butt-secks.

Thats a pretty argumentative way to look at why people support the death penalty lol...

I see it more as people think that the person can't contribute anything else to this world and deserves to be put to death since they killed someone themselves (eye for an eye).


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post Aug 22 2007, 04:30 PM
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If prison were tougher, as in suicide rate of long term inmates were something on the order of 10 to 20%, then I would support getting rid of the death penalty. I would also support shorter sentencing. But until then, this is really the last thing we have left before I believe America protects its criminals.


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post Aug 22 2007, 06:26 PM
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i believe that if someone is deemed worthless to society, won';t contribute, and has a cronic habit of taking away from it, then the death penalty should be used for severe crimes. aggravated sexual assault, murder, etc. i do NOT believe we should keep them waiting for 15 years to "think about it" get it done already. i got $.27 for a bullet, i'll do it. "the time period allows it to sink in that we are gonna kill them!" fuck that. if you need to scare them so that it's punishment, scheduelt them for execution. go through the process, when it comes down actual act and you've DEFINATELY got their attention, take them back to ISOLATION SO THEY CAN"T TALK ABOUT IT TO OTHER INMATES. let them stew over it for 2 days, then take them back and actually execute them.


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post Aug 22 2007, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Aug 22 2007, 01:46 PM) *
fuck the EU

fuck the UN

fuck NAFTA

and fuck every other foreign entity that thinks their opinion regarding the governing of America (or Texas in this case) holds any weight.

we didn't vote for those fucks. and they aren't Americans.

they are delusional.


that is great and all, but we do the same to every other country....


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post Aug 23 2007, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Aug 22 2007, 07:26 PM) *
i believe that if someone is deemed worthless to society, won';t contribute, and has a cronic habit of taking away from it, then the death penalty should be used for severe crimes. aggravated sexual assault, murder, etc. i do NOT believe we should keep them waiting for 15 years to "think about it" get it done already. i got $.27 for a bullet, i'll do it. "the time period allows it to sink in that we are gonna kill them!" fuck that. if you need to scare them so that it's punishment, scheduelt them for execution. go through the process, when it comes down actual act and you've DEFINATELY got their attention, take them back to ISOLATION SO THEY CAN"T TALK ABOUT IT TO OTHER INMATES. let them stew over it for 2 days, then take them back and actually execute them.

What happens when you murder a person who is innocent because theres no time for a correct appeals process to clear the person? Too bad, so sad?


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post Aug 23 2007, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE (schwab @ Aug 22 2007, 07:56 PM) *
that is great and all, but we do the same to every other country....


I didn't say it was right.

I'm all for shutting down team america's handout shop and letting everyone else fuck off for a while without our help.

let them sweat it out as they see how good they had it prior.

last I checked no one in europe is funding us...
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post Aug 23 2007, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Aug 23 2007, 01:51 AM) *
What happens when you murder a person who is innocent because theres no time for a correct appeals process to clear the person? Too bad, so sad?


how often does this happen? RARELY and it's almost always covered in the news for about 3 damn weeks.


and what about that case i've been hearing about, where suddenly right before the guy is gonna be executed, several witnesses suddenly remembered AFTER 15 YEARS! "oh, this is how it actually happened"

one reason our capitalism works is because we put a deadline on almost anything. get rid of the damn procrastination. if it was only 5 years before this guy got executed, would those witneses had their "brain farts" at that time? pretty damn likely, giving the convienience of the circumstances. give an american man a week to mow the lawn, i can (almost) guarantee he'll wait until the 7th day to do it.


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