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post Sep 5 2007, 11:00 AM
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given an orthogonal set, how do you find the norm for that set of functions

I remember how to find the norm of a single function, but don't remember if you do something different for a set.

i should know this considering i got a degree in math, but can't remember.

if you need to know, the functions are sin(n*x) and cos(n*x) where n=0,1,2,...

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post Sep 5 2007, 11:17 AM
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post Sep 5 2007, 12:21 PM
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If you don't get an answer before I get off work today, I'll check my notes from my grad math courses. I know we covered norms, but I don't recall how to calculate them off the top of my head.


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post Sep 5 2007, 12:40 PM
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well there are different kinds of norms that you can take...

typically you integrate the multiplication of the two functions


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post Sep 5 2007, 12:42 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_(mathematics)

Like the wiki suggests, it depends on what type of norms you are looking forward.
The idea of a norm is, in essence, an abstract concept.


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post Sep 5 2007, 12:43 PM
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what are you doing this for?
it sounds very Fourier-esque...


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post Sep 5 2007, 01:10 PM
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I figured he was probably looking for the L2 (Euclidian) norm.


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post Sep 5 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Sep 5 2007, 01:40 PM) *
well there are different kinds of norms that you can take...
typically you integrate the multiplication of the two functions


that's what you do to tell if the set is orthogonal.

to find the norm of a function you square it, integrate it, then take the root. though I'm not sure what to do with a set of functions.


QUOTE (blaarg @ Sep 5 2007, 01:43 PM) *
what are you doing this for?
it sounds very Fourier-esque...


Fourier series/transforms involved with numerical models

QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 5 2007, 02:10 PM) *
I figured he was probably looking for the L2 (Euclidian) norm.


yep

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post Sep 5 2007, 03:04 PM
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http://www.mathphysics.com/pde/ch2wr.html
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post Sep 5 2007, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE (1up @ Sep 5 2007, 12:17 PM) *
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TI-89 ftw...


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