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 Jan 24 2007, 12:59 PM
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you don't get what i'm saying. where the hell did i say a parent shouldn't be concerned about their family? no shit people don't want their family killed, but if a parent is that worried about their son/DAUGHTER(fuckin A dude callin me sexist gimme a fuckin break) getting killed, maybe they should have opposed their decision to enter the military in the first place.
the point here is you guys (and the democrats who speak out on this) are trying to use the sympathy factor as an excuse to not send more troops over. this is fucking stupid, as that's the mission these people signed up for. if you hired a fucking maid, and she said she didn't want to fuckin clean your house because it was dirty, would you keep fuckin payin her (and yeah I said "HER" because I'm a sexist motherfucker!)? |
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Jan 24 2007, 01:06 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
One, I was joking about the sexist thing.
Two: QUOTE you don't get what i'm saying. where the hell did i say a parent shouldn't be concerned about their family? QUOTE why? if fathers/mothers/sons/daughters/etc had concerns about their family being killed in war, maybe they shouldn't have let them sign up for the MILITARY *cough* Three: I don't play the sympathy card. There is no reason to send more troops when most of the country does not even support the damned war anymore. QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 24 2007, 12:59 PM)  the point here is you guys (and the democrats who speak out on this) are trying to use the sympathy factor as an excuse to not send more troops over. this is fucking stupid, as that's the mission these people signed up for. if you hired a fucking maid, and she said she didn't want to fuckin clean your house because it was dirty, would you keep fuckin payin her (and yeah I said "HER" because I'm a sexist motherfucker!)? I have a male maid OMG LOLZ This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Jan 24 2007, 01:07 PM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 24 2007, 01:07 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
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--------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 24 2007, 01:10 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 24 2007, 01:42 PM
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I don't think it's a fact that people don't support the war... I think it's fact that this country has lost interest.
The dems are attempting to turn this into Vietnam and for anyone who's actually studied the commanders during Vietnam and read their memoirs, you learn very quickly that they believed had they been given more troops and more time, they could have won there. Tet was a down point but they believe that the slow bleed Congress enacted on their powers as commanders caused them to lose. And it's happening again now. No one wants to open their eyes and see this... The defeatist attitude is going to get Americans killed and accomplish nothing. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 24 2007, 02:00 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 24 2007, 01:10 PM) HAHA, that got me good. i was like "hey, she has a nice pair or titt- OMG THATS ALOT OF ARMPIT HAIR!!!!" *RETCH* -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 24 2007, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 24 2007, 11:28 AM) Since when did parents have authority over their adult children? Some people, like my cousin, join the military because they have not other options in their life (she is currently in Iraq). Maybe YOU should not be an insensitive dick. only option in life? well count your cousins lucky stars that the military was there to prevent them from being nothing. your cousin was old enough to sign up for the military the decision was in their court. not to sound like an insensitive cock, but the whole the military was my only option saying just doesn't seem to be like it's an only option for anyone. -------------------- |
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Jan 24 2007, 02:45 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
when options are working for a fast food chain for a couple of more years or handling two jobs and just living paycheck to paycheck or join the military after a few months that military option seems like the only one.
add in some kids or dependent people and the military is the fastest most profitable option. and yes for some people it is the ONLY option to pay for college -------------------- Little monkeys making money
Naked monkey looking funny Mighty males are strong and free Female monkey, not so lucky Rocking monkeys, funky monkeys Monkeys sticking other monkeys Monkeys wrong or monkeys right Mostly flexing monkey might |
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Jan 24 2007, 02:55 PM
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although it is depressing to think about, test is right.
thank god for units with indocs. I can't imagine serving with people who joined because they had no other option in life. what a sadsack unit that would be. but with selections...you have to want it more than life. |
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Jan 24 2007, 04:06 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jan 24 2007, 02:45 PM) when options are working for a fast food chain for a couple of more years or handling two jobs and just living paycheck to paycheck or join the military after a few months that military option seems like the only one. add in some kids or dependent people and the military is the fastest most profitable option. and yes for some people it is the ONLY option to pay for college Thank you, she was working at a truck stop and was continually hit on by burly truck men when she decided to join the military. At that point in her life, it was her only option. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 24 2007, 04:09 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 24 2007, 01:42 PM) I don't think it's a fact that people don't support the war... I think it's fact that this country has lost interest. The dems are attempting to turn this into Vietnam and for anyone who's actually studied the commanders during Vietnam and read their memoirs, you learn very quickly that they believed had they been given more troops and more time, they could have won there. Tet was a down point but they believe that the slow bleed Congress enacted on their powers as commanders caused them to lose. And it's happening again now. No one wants to open their eyes and see this... The defeatist attitude is going to get Americans killed and accomplish nothing. http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm As for Vietnam, we should have never invaded in the first place. But that is just my opinion. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 24 2007, 04:15 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 24 2007, 04:09 PM) Semantically, only one of those questions barely touches on whether they support the war or not, which is why I hate opinion polls. The only question that comes close is the "Do you agree with the way Bush is handling Iraq", which can create clouded answers because people just don't like Bush. QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 24 2007, 04:09 PM) As for Vietnam, we should have never invaded in the first place. But that is just my opinion. Well, now that we're 40 years from that decision being made it's easy to see... Just like should we have invaded Iraq. That is no longer the question, the question is 'how do we proceed? do we pull a Vietnam and let the troops die or do we stand firm and add troops?' -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 24 2007, 06:03 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
-------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 25 2007, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 24 2007, 03:06 PM) Thank you, she was working at a truck stop and was continually hit on by burly truck men when she decided to join the military. At that point in her life, it was her only option. trying to find another job wasn't an option. trying to go to a CC wasn't an option. nope military was the only option -------------------- |
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Jan 25 2007, 12:47 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
There are OTHER options. It is quite ignorant to say that there are no other options. On the other hand, I sympethize with people who come from an impoverished background and chose the military as their career because they dont want their children to grow up the same way. It is the fast road to success. There is always another option, though...always. It just may not produce the same results or it may not be as easy a road to comeby
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