 another low down stunt, from our favorite president |
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 Oct 4 2006, 03:13 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46  |
It is ok to prosecute war criminals as long as they are not presidents of the United States...
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 03:14 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 04:13 PM) It is ok to prosecute war criminals as long as they are not presidents of the United States... he isnt a criminal. Its just hippy liberals love to make him out to be one. |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:16 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
spivey you're just getting delusional now. you really believe they're sitting around saying "man we're doing a shitty job!"
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Oct 4 2006, 03:17 PM
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So does anyone here know exactly what they are doing to these prisoners? I am curious to know what they are calling torture. And until I know this, I don't think I can form an opinion on the subject.
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Oct 4 2006, 03:17 PM
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 Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:14 PM) he isnt a criminal. Its just hippy liberals love to make him out to be one. And if a person doesn't deserve this torture? What then, it's all duckies and cuter duckies? It's ok, he may have gotten some improtant information, even if hundreds of innocent people went through hell. I mean, sacrafice the many for the one, huh? --------------------  |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:18 PM
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N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Oct 4 2006, 03:17 PM) And if a person doesn't deserve this torture? What then, it's all duckies and cuter duckies? It's ok, he may have gotten some improtant information, even if hundreds of innocent people went through hell. I mean, sacrafice the many for the one, huh? Since you like to throw this term around, torture, so much, maybe you could answer my above question. -------------------- QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:22 PM) |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:24 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 03:16 PM) spivey you're just getting delusional now. you really believe they're sitting around saying "man we're doing a shitty job!" it is called sarcasm Learn it and love it -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 03:25 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 03:14 PM) he isnt a criminal. Its just hippy liberals love to make him out to be one. and it is just fascist conservative pigs who support him -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 03:58 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 04:25 PM) and it is just fascist conservative pigs who support him well then i supposed this is a country of fascist conservative pigs, considering he was elected. |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:59 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
By a slim plurality
Remember his first term? He was appointed by the supreme court of the United States... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 04:00 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 03:58 PM) well then i supposed this is a country of fascist conservative pigs, considering he was elected. Again, I was using sarcasm and mocking the notion that everyone who does not support Bush is some how a hippie. Not like there is anything wrong with that... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Oct 4 2006, 04:13 PM
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 DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
Hmm.
Fuck getting a job working for an engineering company, I wanna sign up for the place I get to torture suspected terrorists and get off scott free from it! DRAMA! 
-------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Oct 4 2006, 05:26 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
In my mind a rational person cant make excuses for torture. In another thread the same people aruging here spoke about invading Iraq as an means to take Saddam out of power... for torturing people.
Can you rationalize his torturing? I bet you will say no. What if he suspected them of being anti established government (werent most of them?). He can't do that but our president can. What is the difference between the two? The Iraq government was "bad" and ours is "good"? The argument of Saddam did this to his own people we are doing it to someone elses just isnt right to me. Our morals and beliefs in human rights extend out to another country but not for ourselves? The ability for a government official to be able to pardon themself is a horrible loophole in the justice system. Think of how this will trickle down and don't be ignorant and say people won't try. Courts are hugely influenced by precident, take a law class. That is in definition putting yourself above the law. Even if you DIDNT do anything wrong there is a system of checks and balances in which our democracy works and you shouldnt be able to circumvent that. -------------------- Little monkeys making money
Naked monkey looking funny Mighty males are strong and free Female monkey, not so lucky Rocking monkeys, funky monkeys Monkeys sticking other monkeys Monkeys wrong or monkeys right Mostly flexing monkey might |
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Oct 4 2006, 05:32 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 05:26 PM) In my mind a rational person cant make excuses for torture. In another thread the same people aruging here spoke about invading Iraq as an means to take Saddam out of power... for torturing people. Can you rationalize his torturing? I bet you will say no. What if he suspected them of being anti established government (werent most of them?). He can't do that but our president can. What is the difference between the two? The Iraq government was "bad" and ours is "good"? The argument of Saddam did this to his own people we are doing it to someone elses just isnt right to me. Our morals and beliefs in human rights extend out to another country but not for ourselves? The ability for a government official to be able to pardon themself is a horrible loophole in the justice system. Think of how this will trickle down and don't be ignorant and say people won't try. Courts are hugely influenced by precident, take a law class. That is in definition putting yourself above the law. Even if you DIDNT do anything wrong there is a system of checks and balances in which our democracy works and you shouldnt be able to circumvent that. the most common phrase used on both sides of any conflict is "we will fight the heathens" we will forever think "our way is ok" --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Oct 4 2006, 05:36 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
people wont forever think that if they can even begin to grip the fact of a reality outside of their own
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