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Hartmann
post Oct 4 2006, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE (Rocky @ Oct 4 2006, 05:03 PM)
The things that matter in Vista, have nothing to do with the eye candy.

Exactly. Thank you.

How would I do the minimize/maximize thing? I answered that a long time ago; I'd do it just like they're doing it in XP, leaving the animation out.

You asked me if I have been using Vista for long, I answered you. What the hell is your problem? I've seen it go from horrible memory usage, to decent, back to horrible, to good, to where it is now, which is decent but still not stellar.

I felt compelled to make the statement I did because it's exactly what you do whenever someone posts something for OS X or Linux or anything. You always come back with "eh, it sucks".



P.S. - There is one thing that MS has been innovative about, VS.NET 2005.


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post Oct 4 2006, 05:42 PM
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all i see in this thread is:

<nerds aruging> <nerds arguing> <nerds arguing>
<nerds arguing some more>
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post Oct 4 2006, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Oct 4 2006, 05:42 PM)
all i see in this thread is:

<nerds aruging> <nerds arguing> <nerds arguing>
<nerds arguing some more>

You know it turns you on...


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impala454
post Oct 4 2006, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 4 2006, 06:01 PM)
Jesus H. Christ, Impala, chill out. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill here.

shit don't look at me i didn't start the bickering
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post Oct 4 2006, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006 @ 06:10 PM)
I felt compelled to make the statement I did because it's exactly what you do whenever someone posts something for OS X or Linux or anything. You always come back with "eh, it sucks".

so then you were turning it into a "my OS is better than your OS". and look closely, when I'm an asshole in a thread, it's purely retaliation. i rarely, if ever, actually start the shit. don't fucking come into a thread i start, talk shit about it, and not expect me to respond.

anyways... back on topic

i installed it last night and thought i saw some neat stuff so i figured i'd post it... here's a couple screenshots i took. oh and btw this is windows vista rc1, not OSX (just thought i'd clarify as they apparently look exactly alike rolleyes.gif).

desktop (full size here)


here's the performance numbers with Outlook 2007 beta, Word 2007 beta, Photoshop CS2, IE7, Trillian, & the windows sidebar. Shade over a gig of swap isn't too shabby as far as i'm concerned. the OS in general runs smooth as silk (although i'll admit i have a pretty monster machine).


here's the "software explorer" in windows defender... pretty nice organization


i still have a ton of stuff to install but so far seems pretty sweet. it's still a RC and has beta ATI catalyst & beta creative audigy 2 drivers so i don't doubt there will be some hiccups. I also did a lot of tweaking on my XP box before (removing unused services, etc) so I'm sure some toying with it will be in order.
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post Oct 4 2006, 06:44 PM
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ah and here goes that product guide, has tons of info on the new features (both boring nerdy hardware/system stuff and the pretty warm-fuzzy stuff)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en
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post Oct 4 2006, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:42 PM)
so then you were turning it into a "my OS is better than your OS". and look closely, when I'm an asshole in a thread, it's purely retaliation. i rarely, if ever, actually start the shit. don't fucking come into a thread i start, talk shit about it, and not expect me to respond.

Your sarcasm is lost on me. I wasn't trying to turn it into anything, was merely making a simple statement that you took as an attack. You rarely start the shit? I'm not even touching this one. Stop acting like you're an innocent bystander in this and take it for what it is, two people arguing over something stupid.

You've come into threads that multiple people have started (myself included) and "started shit". And if I do read correctly I never actually started anything. I merely stated it looks a lot like OS X and that memory usage for me was pretty bad (I don't have a beast of a machine).

I see Vista as a waste of MS resources. They could have spent the 3+ years that they sunk into it doing something with XP and building some really useful tools. VS.NET 2005 is a start and they need to stick to that path, giving people tools to make their product even better.

What I hope is that they have some installation options for people who are not technically inclined (my grandparents) or their Emachines are gonna run like crap.


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post Oct 4 2006, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 08:08 PM)
You've come into threads that multiple people have started (myself included) and "started shit".

Let's see one. I know the boards were cleared, but I've made over 1000 posts since then... so if I'm really that bad it should be easy to find one. Your post had a legitimate opinion, and I in turn asked you why it was you felt that way. I got no problem that you started hacking at Vista, just don't get all hussy when I fire back.

QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 08:08 PM)
And if I do read correctly I never actually started anything. I merely stated it looks a lot like OS X and that memory usage for me was pretty bad (I don't have a beast of a machine).

And all I did was merely post two pics and ask how they look alike. I took what you said about the memory stuff as an interesting thing to check out, as I hadn't looked at it. Then you proceeded to start hacking apart the vista pic and telling me I didn't know what I was talking about bc I haven't used OSX.

QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 08:08 PM)
I see Vista as a waste of MS resources. They could have spent the 3+ years that they sunk into it doing something with XP and building some really useful tools.

what kind of useful tools? (legit question i'm not messin with you)

QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 08:08 PM)
What I hope is that they have some installation options for people who are not technically inclined (my grandparents) or their Emachines are gonna run like crap.

the performance options are actually really nice. you can turn off all the fanciness and go back to the standard windows look. i'll have to try that and see how it changes the memory footprint.
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post Oct 4 2006, 08:28 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTeP_eh8XAA...related&search=


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post Oct 4 2006, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 4 2006, 08:28 PM)

Never seen that before. biggrin.gif

I like that they use "gadgets" instead of "widgets"


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post Oct 4 2006, 08:41 PM
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I thought it was pretty funny that Apple used "widget" even after Konfabulator did. wink.gif

all of their stuff is original thinking though! Man those are creative people!
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post Oct 4 2006, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 08:41 PM)
I thought it was pretty funny that Apple used "widget" even after Konfabulator did.  wink.gif

all of their stuff is original thinking though!  Man those are creative people!

I don't even really use widgets... It's just easier to type in a web address for me.

Name one thing (outside of VS.NET) that is truly innovative. Spotlight, the iSight, etc. were innovative from Apple.

I just find it funny that you bring up one thing to keep this argument going. Apple never claimed that Dashboard was something that wasn't already out there or so neat that you had to have it. They put it in the release and waited to see what the reaction was.

I don't understand why you keep digging at this whole thing and then turn around accuse me of being a dick about the whole thing. You make no sense man.


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post Oct 4 2006, 08:53 PM
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i still use DOS as my operating system, you'll never convince me to upgrade to one of those new-fagled fancy GUIs
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Oct 4 2006, 09:53 PM)
i still use DOS as my operating system, you'll never convince me to upgrade to one of those new-fagled fancy GUIs



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