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post Jul 12 2006, 04:35 PM
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BEIRUT, Lebanon - Hezbollah militants crossed into
Israel on Wednesday and captured two Israeli soldiers. Israel responded in southern Lebanon with warplanes, tanks and gunboats, and said eight of its soldiers had been killed in the violence.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the soldiers' capture "an act of war," and his Cabinet prepared to approve more military action in Lebanon — a second front in the fight against Islamic militants by Israel, which already is waging an operation to free a captured soldier in the
Gaza Strip.

The Israeli army said three soldiers were killed in the initial raid, and four others were killed when their tank hit a land mine in southern Lebanon. An eighth soldier was killed as an Israeli force tried to get to the tank, which was part of a ground invasion aimed at rescuing the captured soldiers.

Olmert said he held the Lebanese government responsible for the two soldiers' safety, vowing that the Israeli response "will be restrained, but very, very, very painful."

Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah said he will not release the captives except as part of a prisoner swap. He said the two soldiers were "in a safe and very far place."

"No military operation will return them," he told a news conference in Beirut. "The prisoners will not be returned except through one way: indirect negotiations and a trade."

Israeli jets struck deep into southern Lebanon, blasting bridges and Hezbollah positions and killing two civilians, the Lebanese officials said.

The Israeli military planned to call up thousands of reservists, and residents of Israeli towns on the border with Lebanon were ordered to seek cover in underground bomb shelters.

The Israeli stock market plunged on word that two more soldiers were captured and that Israel was getting entangled in a second front against Lebanese guerrillas. The exchange's TA-25 blue chip index sank as much as 4.9 percent in exceptionally heavy trading. It rose slightly in afternoon trading to close down 4.2 percent.

The United States, U.N.,
European Union, France and Germany expressed deep concern about the fighting. U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan called for the immediate release of kidnapped Israeli soldiers and condemned Israel's retaliation in southern Lebanon.

Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice said the Hezbollah action went against the interest of the Lebanese people, and that
Syria has a "special responsibility" to resolve the crisis.

"All sides must act with restraint to resolve this incident peacefully and to protect innocent life and civilian infrastructure," she said ahead of meetings in Paris.

Separately, Israel escalated its Gaza assault, killing 23 people.

Israeli attacks in the central Gaza town of Deir Al-Balah killed 12 people, while two people were killed in separate incidents elsewhere in Gaza.

Israel also dropped a quarter-ton bomb on a home in Gaza City before dawn to try to kill top Hamas fugitives. Palestinian hospital officials said the blast killed nine members of a family — seven children and two parents.

After initially claiming its leaders had escaped harm, Hamas militants took over the intensive care unit of Gaza City's main hospital, where doctors said seven militants were in critical condition. The gunmen refused to say who was being treated.

The Israeli military said Mohammed Deif, the leader of the Hamas military wing and No. 1 on Israel's wanted list for more than a decade, was among the wounded.

The Shiite Lebanese Hezbollah said it captured the two soldiers to help win the release of prisoners held in Israel. Hamas had made identical demands in seizing Cpl. Gilad Shalit on June 25.

A top Hamas leader said his movement did not coordinate with Hezbollah over the capture of the soldiers but said it was "natural" for the groups to work together against Israel.

"Now Israeli has to decide on its choices," Osama Hamdan, Hamas' spokesman in Lebanon, told The Associated Press. "It is early to talk about details of the exchange, but no doubt the operation carried out by Hezbollah today will strengthen our demands to exchange the captives."

Israel, however, appeared determined to win freedom for its troops with a show of force.

Army Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz warned the Lebanese government that the Israeli military will target infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years," if the soldiers were not returned, Israeli TV reported.

Israeli troops crossed into a southwestern sector of Lebanon, across the border from where the soldiers were seized, trying to keep their captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli security officials said.

Israeli warplanes and gunboats blasted bridges and Hezbollah positions in south Lebanon, killing two civilians, the Lebanese security officials said.

The Israeli jets made their deepest foray in an afternoon strike on a road in the Zahrani region along the Mediterranean coast — about halfway between the border and the capital of Beirut. Anti-aircraft guns opened fire on jets flying over the coastal city of Sidon.

In the evening, warplanes made their closest strike to Beirut, hitting a Palestinian guerrilla base 10 miles to the south.

The Arab League planned an urgent meeting on the crisis Thursday amid "fears of widening of tension and possible Israeli strike against Syria," which backs Hezbollah, a senior league official in Cairo said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Syrian Vice President Farouk al-Sharaa blamed Israel for the escalating violence in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories and denied his country had a role in either abduction.

"It's up to the resistance — both the Lebanese and the Palestinian — to decide what they are doing and why are they fighting," he told reporters in Damascus.

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State David Welch, visiting Cairo, said the capture of the two Israeli soldiers was "a very dangerous escalation" that "puts at risk all the effort that's being put forth by many to find a solution to the current situation."

Jubilant residents of south Beirut, a stronghold of Hezbollah, and Palestinians in the Ein el-Hilwa refugee camp fired guns in the air and set off firecrackers in celebration after the capture of the Israeli soldiers was announced.

The top U.N. official in Lebanon, Geir Pedersen, met with Lebanon's prime minister and denounced Hezbollah's incursion across the border into northern Israel, known as the Blue Line.

"Hezbollah's action escalates the already tense situation along the Blue Line and is an act of very dangerous proportions," he said in a statement.

Elsewhere, Israeli troops killed a Hezbollah guerrilla as he tried to infiltrate a military base in northern Israel. The army said Hezbollah also fired rockets toward the Israeli border. There were no reports of injuries.

Hezbollah's military arm said its fighters captured two Israeli soldiers "on the border with occupied Palestine, fulfilling the promise to liberate its prisoners" held by Israel.

Hamas-linked militants have demanded the release of at least some of the estimated 9,000 prisoners held by Israel in exchange for Shalit's freedom. Israel has carried out several prisoner swaps with Hezbollah in the past to free captured Israelis.

Israel occupied a small strip of southern Lebanon for 18 years before withdrawing in 2000 amid public complaints in Israel. Hezbollah fighters have controlled the Lebanese side of the border since then. Israel and Hezbollah have been clashing for two decades and still fight over a small sliver of border territory — Chebaa Farms.

Lebanon is under U.N. and U.S. pressure to disarm the Shiite guerrilla group and move its own military into the south, but the government has refused to do so, calling Hezbollah a legitimate resistance group.


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post Jul 12 2006, 04:51 PM
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Seriously, I fucking hate when dumbfucks accuse Israel of overstepping their boundaries with shit like this. Israel sits smack dab in the middle of their enemy. They need to present themselves as tough. I do think its a good thing for America to back Israel. Her people were almost wiped out once. Their safety is a priority. On the other hand, I rest assured that Israel can do a pretty damn good job at defending herself against Lebanon and Palestine. Israel has some pretty good weaponry
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post Jul 12 2006, 05:12 PM
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I'm tired of everyone condemning israel for showing a little force. When America got attacked during 9/11 we went off and told the U.N. to kiss our ass.

These arab contries don't want peace, they want Israel gone, they say they want peace when they get their ass kicked, then once they train up more suicide bombers and terrorist idiots they are back to the same old game. Its about time someone wiped lebanon and syria and all those shit countries off the map.


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post Jul 12 2006, 05:14 PM
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Lebanon has always been a thorn in the side of Israel. When my mom lived in Israel she was on the border with Lebanon and said that Hezbollah would often conduct incursions into the country, causing the Israeli Army and Air Force to intervene.


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post Jul 12 2006, 07:45 PM
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:55 PM
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Why so serious?


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I'll agree that Israel needs to show force/strength given it's geographic location, especially when the situation warrants such action.

What I don't agree with is Israel maintaining any "settlements" formed from conquered lands gained from the Arab-Israeli War/"Six-Day War" and Yom Kippur War (1967 and 1973, respectively). [Side question: Which "settlements" has Israel given back in recent years...was it the Gaza Strip?]
Also, Israel OBVIOUSLY has a problem with the tactics of suicide bombers (Hamas, Hezbolla, etc...whichever group executes them), yet they see no problem firing missiles from helicopters into crowds of civilians with the goal of killing maybe one or two members of the affore mentioned groups.

International hypocrisy...ain't it grand?!


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post Jul 12 2006, 08:42 PM
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personally I think it'd be great if Israel just fucking took over the entire portion of palestine and then everyone left iraq for palestine and we can finally have the mother of all holy wars and we can finally wipe a bunch of radical muslim fuckheads off the map smile.gif Go Israel smile.gif


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post Jul 12 2006, 08:43 PM
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Gaza was just recently returned...

Israel gave Egypt back most of the land that it captured after Egypt invaded. There have been a lot of wars that were started by the Arab side that the Israelis won and were able to gain ground. We still maintain a presence in Germany, Italy, and Japan, why can't the Israeli's do something similiar.

For what it's worth, Gaza has always been disputed and was at first a common settlement, meaning Palestinians and Israelis lived there together.

About your last comment. I'm sorry, I don't feel sorry for people who know that there is a conflict going on around them and they choose to drive a car around in the stuff. Stupidity breeds bad consequences.


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post Jul 12 2006, 08:46 PM
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its a different mindset than ours.


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post Jul 12 2006, 09:00 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 12 2006, 09:43 PM)
About your last comment. I'm sorry, I don't feel sorry for people who know that there is a conflict going on around them and they choose to drive a car around in the stuff. Stupidity breeds bad consequences.

Ah, so based off of this you don't feel sorry for innocent Israelis or Palestinians being killed, correct?


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We still maintain a presence in Germany, Italy, and Japan, why can't the Israeli's do something similiar.

I personally feel such troop positions are, if the reasoning is still "fear of a return to WWII governments," idiotic. Now the more common sense treaties/alliances explanation that allows for those bases to be there is a-ok.
Same can't be said for Israeli "settlements."


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post Jul 12 2006, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 12 2006, 09:00 PM)
Ah, so based off of this you don't feel sorry for innocent Israelis or Palestinians being killed, correct?



I personally feel such troop positions are, if the reasoning is still "fear of a return to WWII governments," idiotic. Now the more common sense treaties/alliances explanation that allows for those bases to be there is a-ok.
Same can't be said for Israeli "settlements."

There are buffer zones in North Korea as well, which is what Israel calls a lot of the settlements (Israelis and Palestinians live in most of them).

I feel sorry for innocent casualties but I do not feel sorry for stupidity. When my mom was in Israel, as soon as you heard the jets fly over or the tanks starting to roll you immediately went into one of the many bomb shelters that cover the area (on both the Lebanese and Israeli side). People who don't do that are asking for a world of hurt. I don't know how I feel about the Israelis firing into crowds to take out leaders of terrorist groups. On one hand, out in the open is the best way to ensure that they get them, on the other hand, like you said, they put people at risk. I guess the question is, how many lives are saved at the expense of losing one?


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post Jul 12 2006, 09:43 PM
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post Jul 12 2006, 09:50 PM
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Lebanon just needs to finally havea civil war, then everything will be ok and sides can be chosen
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Those Jews are no joke. They'll kill a puppy if it mean mugs one of their soldiers.
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post Jul 13 2006, 09:27 AM
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ww3 is on the brink!


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