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post Jan 14 2008, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jan 11 2008, 10:39 AM) *
It would help if we actually had free market healthcare.

we'd get shitty research cause the incentive is gone.


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Please forgive me because I don't want to pay MORE unfair taxes because some faggot got aids because he didn't make his boyfriend use a condom.

And obviously I mean more than just aids. What about lung cancer treatment for people who still choose to smoke? What about anyone else who have unhealthy practices? What about people who eat themselves to death and have all kinds of medical issues because of it? Why should their self-inflicted burden be spread over the population? Do the people who take care of themselves deserve this?

I don't think so.

I was thinking of more fat and diabetic problems, as well as unclean piercings.


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post Jan 14 2008, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 13 2008, 05:50 PM) *
Well, you could easily go sign up and pay $60/month and get it.



I could, but I prefer to keep my electricity turned on right now.


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post Jan 14 2008, 02:27 PM
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And your internet... and your computer... don't even come on here on the internet and talk about how you can't afford health insurance but can afford internet access.
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post Jan 14 2008, 03:10 PM
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unclean piercings? thats a new one


internet is basically a necessity for a student. while healthcare isnt until you need it and the kicker is you never know when thatll be! and i pay less than 60 bucks for my cable internet! i have health insurance through tech now but i havent looked at any of the paperwork. i am willing to bet thatll be the cheapest way to get your own insurance if you are a tech student

denmarkites (ians something) pay SHIT LOADS of taxes yet they are rated as the happiest people on earth and ladies leave their babies in a stroller on the sidewalk while they do their shopping. crazy communists having to be so damn happy with the world!


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post Jan 14 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jan 14 2008, 03:10 PM) *
unclean piercings? thats a new one
internet is basically a necessity for a student. while healthcare isnt until you need it and the kicker is you never know when thatll be! and i pay less than 60 bucks for my cable internet! i have health insurance through tech now but i havent looked at any of the paperwork. i am willing to bet thatll be the cheapest way to get your own insurance if you are a tech student


You pay less than $60?! Cable internet and TV costs somewhere in the range of $45-80 depending on your setup.

Internet is not a necessity. I have gone weeks without internet in my home and survived by simply going to a nearby coffee shop.


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post Jan 14 2008, 03:15 PM
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i have less than 50 for internet yet and less than 50 for tv together resulting in 98 bucks. i could choose to have one of the other and save money

so you have a laptop then? those are pretty expensive. when my internet died i had to drive to my bfs or call him whenever i needed to check my email and i still got behind. and it SUUUUUUUCKS to have to drive to campus each time you need a computer. and a person on a tight budget may not even be able to do that


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post Jan 14 2008, 03:18 PM
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i have less than 50 for internet yet and less than 50 for tv together resulting in 98 bucks. i could choose to have one of the other and save money

so you have a laptop then? those are pretty expensive.


You can get them for cheap if you try (and really want to). Also, a lot of coffee shops have installed workstations that you can do work on, send e-mail etc. leaving the cost of a thumbdrive up to the user.


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post Jan 14 2008, 03:20 PM
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The point is, you currently have your choice. You can do a buy-up plan at a company who pays for your insurance for like $150/month and have super duper ultra coverage, or you can pay for some cheap student insurance, or you can choose to not have insurance.

If you allow the government to choose for you, it'll be crap coverage and you no longer have any choice.
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post Jan 14 2008, 03:20 PM
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ive been looking for a cheap laptop! THEY DONT EXIST. except for that one that i think ira was trying to sell from 1995 but i wasnt going to do it


well i am basing my opinions on universal healthcare on that EVERYONE needs insurance whether they think they do or not. because its when these dumbasses get hurt and dont have insurance - thats what we pay for now. and it happens a lot (ie. lots of people in america dont have insurance)


IF everyone got insurance from the government, yes it wouldnt be like OMG the doctors come to see me before i even know im sick! but theyd still all have insurance. that could possibly save money?


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post Jan 14 2008, 03:24 PM
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Right but it's your own choice. It's like car insurance (yes you have to have liability), but having full coverage is up to you. If you don't have full coverage and you total the thing at your own fault, you're screwed.

And btw cheap laptops, ebay. I got an excellent refurbished laptop off ebay for about $300.
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 13 2008, 05:50 PM) *
Well, you could easily go sign up and pay $60/month and get it.


THIS.

Because everyone loves having a $6 trillion deductible.


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post Jan 14 2008, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Jan 14 2008, 04:22 PM) *
THIS.

Because everyone loves having a $6 trillion deductible.

I quoted the exact rates. It was with a $1500 deductible. Very reasonable IMHO.
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post Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM
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$1500 deductible for $60/month with $25 office visits and $10 prescriptions... something like that is not unreasonable. It's not like that $1500 has to be paid all in one lump sum and it definitely beats 3k, 6k+ out of pocket w/o insurance.


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post Jan 14 2008, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM) *
$1500 deductible for $60/month with $25 office visits and $10 prescriptions... something like that is not unreasonable. It's not like that $1500 has to be paid all in one lump sum and it definitely beats 3k, 6k+ out of pocket w/o insurance.


Exactly.

I pay ~$30/month through work with a $2,000 deductible, $15 office visits, and $10 prescriptions.


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post Jan 14 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM) *
$1500 deductible for $60/month with $25 office visits and $10 prescriptions... something like that is not unreasonable. It's not like that $1500 has to be paid all in one lump sum and it definitely beats 3k, 6k+ out of pocket w/o insurance.

Or even more... I met my deductible with my surgeries earlier this year, and had I not had any insurance whatsoever, total would have been into the $30k range.

and just to add mine I pay $0 through my company and have $2,000 deductible, $25 office, and $15 prescriptions.
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