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Dec 13 2007, 03:39 PM
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Yeah, I would have to say your post was pretty racist, heh Explain please And I didn't research whether or not Canada had two official languages or what ratio spoke French or English. Find me a country that has two official languages and the reasoning is probably the same - you're at a competitive disadvantage if you aren't bilingual. Probably 99% of Americans aren't at a competitive disadvantage in any walk of life because they can't speak Spanish And I'm not talking about international business. If you your company can't speak multiple languages you're fucked. I'm talking specifically about why there is no point in having two languages because a minority (both economically speaking and in terms of population numbers) happens to have a lot of low class blue collar workers living both legally and illegally in our country -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 03:49 PM
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Oh, and to answer the racist claim. Absolutely nothing I said was remotely racist. I can say "fuck spics, I hope they're wiped off the face of the earth" and it wouldn't be racist. An asshole comment, yes, but not racist.
Mexico is a country, not a race of people. I made no mention of Latinos (could probably be construed as a "race"), brown people, anyone else from Central or South America, people from Spain, or anything else. I said Mexicans. And not everyone who lives in Mexico is brown, nor poor, nor a criminal, nor whatever else Call me whatever you want, but don't call me a racist. Drives me nuts. Or if you do, at least be consistent. Cathryn, how about you call the Frenchmen you seem to love and defend so much racists because they hate Americans. Or, since you seem to hate most Americans, how about you call yourself a racist? America is a country, so I guess it's a race as well....right? -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 03:55 PM
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The keyword is important. All important politicians in this country speak English (Sorry, Texas border towns near Juarez, your mayors might speak Spanish along with 95% of your citizens, but you aren't considered important by any means). Most workers who only speak Spanish are employed by English speaking business owners. They might have to know enough Spanish to tell the workers where to lay sod, but that isn't what keeps the business afloat. The English speaking business owners are reordering supplies or getting new job contracts with people who speak Spanish. Take it from anyone who has worked for any large company doing the lowest level grunt job (most of you at one point or another, I assume) - cashier at HEB, stocker at Walmart, tire changer at Discount Tire, lawn mower at a landscaping business, burger flipper at Burger king, custodian at an elementary, whatever. That's what Spanish speaking folks mainly do. They might perform the actual job that makes the company money, but they're expendable. They're just disposable workers who can be replaced relatively easily at any time. There's a reason I can walk into Walmart at any time, apply for a job as a cashier, sit down for a 15 minute interview, and get hired 24 hours later. And there's a reason I walk into Walmart's regional headquarters and apply for a district manager position and it takes three follow up interviews, numerous aptitude screenings and other tests, and have to wait three weeks to hear back. It's a much more important job. The most important things in this country are all done in English. How about we let Spanish speaking folks accomplish something that greatly benefits our country before we go appointing another official language You continually reference Spanish-speaking folks when there are many SPANISH (coming from Spain) people who are business men in America. You say "appointing another official language" when our country doesn't even have one official language. You say that these "Spanish speaking" people are expendable when in all actuality, they are not. If a company has a dozen workers and 9 of them are HISPANIC (which I think is the term you are looking for), and they all were to quit within a month of each other, that would hurt the business. A LOT of Hispanic people are harder workers at the "grunt jobs" than are white Americans with snooty attitudes. I mean, think about it... were you that great of an asset all that tire place? Probably not because you didn't even know how to change a flat tire for your gf after you had worked there a month. Put a Mexican who knows tires in that same position, and your "expendable" job becomes a lot less expendable. And lastly, yes, the mayor of El Paso speaks Spanish. So does the police commissioner. So do the judges. So does just about every person with status in that city. Why? because of where it is located. El Paso and other border cities are MAJOR areas of commerce for our country, so to say that "they aren't important by any means" is complete arrogance and biggotry. Its that snooty Austin attitude that gets a lot of people in trouble. If you went to El Paso today, I guarantee it would be completely different than you remember it from 10-12 years ago when you went there. The city is rapidly growing, has several millionaires living there, has a booming economy, more new restaurants and houses than any other city I have seen in the past 5 years, and is one of the safest cities in Texas. I would live in El Paso for 15 years (despite hating it there) before I would live in San Antonio for 6 months. El Paso is becoming a very pretty city, far prettier, cleaner, and safer than San Antonio. Guess not all Mexicans are complete trash, because El Paso is something like 83% hispanic. |
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Dec 13 2007, 03:57 PM
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Oh, and to answer the racist claim. Absolutely nothing I said was remotely racist. I can say "fuck spics, I hope they're wiped off the face of the earth" and it wouldn't be racist. An asshole comment, yes, but not racist. yeah, but Spanish-speaking folks refers to Hispanic, which some places will seperate out into its own race and other places will write "Caucassion, Hispanic" so technically it is a race. If you had used the word MEXICAN from the beginning, you're right. You wouldn't be a racist....just a biggot.
Mexico is a country, not a race of people. I made no mention of Latinos (could probably be construed as a "race"), brown people, anyone else from Central or South America, people from Spain, or anything else. I said Mexicans. And not everyone who lives in Mexico is brown, nor poor, nor a criminal, nor whatever else Call me whatever you want, but don't call me a racist. Drives me nuts. Or if you do, at least be consistent. Cathryn, how about you call the Frenchmen you seem to love and defend so much racists because they hate Americans. Or, since you seem to hate most Americans, how about you call yourself a racist? America is a country, so I guess it's a race as well....right? |
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Dec 13 2007, 04:11 PM
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yeah, but Spanish-speaking folks refers to Hispanic, which some places will seperate out into its own race and other places will write "Caucassion, Hispanic" so technically it is a race. If you had used the word MEXICAN from the beginning, you're right. You wouldn't be a racist....just a biggot. I am NOT a fucking biggot Maybe a bigot, though -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 04:28 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
i see it as less of a problem with spanish... and more of an issue with fucking asians. they NEVER fucking learn to speak english.
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Dec 13 2007, 04:31 PM
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i see it as less of a problem with spanish... and more of an issue with fucking asians. they NEVER fucking learn to speak english. In a totally unrelated note, has anyone seen my dog Hank? -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 04:32 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
like you lost him or has just anyone seen him before?
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Dec 13 2007, 04:42 PM
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i see it as less of a problem with spanish... and more of an issue with fucking asians. they NEVER fucking learn to speak english. guess i'm not doing my job and Will, i think i saw him at little panda, why? -------------------- ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 04:54 PM
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like you lost him or has just anyone seen him before? Asians....eating dogs....missing dog....lame joke -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 05:13 PM
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i see it as less of a problem with spanish... and more of an issue with fucking asians. they NEVER fucking learn to speak english. yeah, serious, why don't they ever learn... -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Dec 13 2007, 05:23 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
i see it as less of a problem with spanish... and more of an issue with fucking asians. they NEVER fucking learn to speak english. I've known plenty of Asian immigrant students who spoke perfectly good English. They might have an accent, but they were more or less fluent. yeah, serious, why don't they ever learn... -------------------- |
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Dec 13 2007, 05:23 PM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,558 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Seoul, South Korea Member No.: 28 |
awww.
actually in general i think eastern asians learn english just fine as they usually take education very seriously. southern asians are usually lower income, which would put them in the less educated bracket as well. -------------------- ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 06:21 PM
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Dec 13 2007, 06:23 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Asians usually speak English at stores and stuff. They don't ask for a person who can talk to them in their language. Some Mexicans do, even if they speak English.
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