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[impala454]

So you're not denying the claim. This is a good start.

[Psykopath]

So you're not denying the claim. This is a good start.

nor are you about right-wingers.

An excellent start indeed.


Hi internetz.

[Testm0nkey]

its pointless "denying the claim" because the claim is unfounded and absurd
you just sound paranoid

[impala454]

So despite you guy's unfounded hatred of me, you can't come out and at least admit that Democrats/Liberals in general tend to think very negatively of our country?

[Psykopath]

So despite you guy's unfounded hatred of me, you can't come out and at least admit that Democrats/Liberals in general tend to think very negatively of our country?

I've never met a Democrat or Liberal that has flat out said "I hate America" nor even come close. Those I've met may have issues with certain policies, but they love this country all and all.

I've met those pseudo modern Communists that have said that, but I forgot you think anything not flag-waving Republican is Communist and anti-America.



So Conservatives and/or Republicans don't bitch and complain about anything? Do you honestly believe that?

I really do think you have a problem with any form of verbal dissent, namely when it involves words that go against your views. But you border on the mentality of hating the right to verbally dissent such things.
Scary.

[impala454]

I didn't say liberals hate America. I said they tend to think very negatively of our country. (think negatively = hate?)

I don't think "not flag-waving Republican" is Communist. (not patriotic = communist?)

I didn't say conservatives don't bitch or complain. (think less negatively = never bitches?)

Don't be scared, I fully observe the rights of liberals to be whiny bitches. As well as my right to change the channel. (annoyed at comments = against free speech?)

It's funny how you take the really very "gray" things I say and immediately make them black & white (see parens above). Maybe you're just exaggerating but I honestly either think A) you just don't really understand what I'm saying or B) just don't want to admit that I'm right that liberals do think much more negatively of our country than conservatives.

[Testm0nkey]

i cant admit that because i dont believe that to be remotely close to the truth. verbal dissent, like zach said, does not imply hatred (or trying to be negative). you can disagree with just about 100% of policies and still love the country. its the idea of loving it so much you want to see it work in the way you see it working the best.
but neither party hates 100% of whats going on, thats just silly

[Testm0nkey]

you need to seperate "thinking negatively of our country" and just thinking negatively about some of the people in charge and some of the things that are going on

ie. Bush is not america. you can hate him and think negatively of him and that doesnt mean you think negatively of america

[impala454]

Where did I say I was talking about Bush?

[Psykopath]

I didn't say liberals hate America. I said they tend to think very negatively of our country. (think negatively = hate?)

I don't think "not flag-waving Republican" is Communist. (not patriotic = communist?)

I didn't say conservatives don't bitch or complain. (think less negatively = never bitches?)

Don't be scared, I fully observe the rights of liberals to be whiny bitches. As well as my right to change the channel. (annoyed at comments = against free speech?)

It's funny how you take the really very "gray" things I say and immediately make them black & white (see parens above). Maybe you're just exaggerating but I honestly either think A) you just don't really understand what I'm saying or just don't want to admit that I'm right that liberals do think much more negatively of our country than conservatives.

Talk about splitting things to just black and white!

I'll take option C: You don't understand what YOU are saying and seem to feel that only you, in all your false-patriotic glory, can be right.

Liberals don't think negatively about the country...I'd say many think negatively about the policies that are implemented by a very neoConservative administration. (speak out about policies = speak negatively about the United States?)

[Psykopath]

you need to seperate "thinking negatively of our country" and just thinking negatively about some of the people in charge and some of the things that are going on

this RIGHT HERE.

See that Impala? This is the concept you either don't understand or you feel that one begets the other.

[Testm0nkey]

the bush thing was just an example

it could be anything, like immigration reform

[impala454]

Well of course the liberals hate who's in charge. But that's not what I'm talking about. When I turn on the liberal news and see report after report after report about how our country is going down the shitter, It's not about policies. When I see liberals screaming their lungs out about how bad the war is going, and then hear from my brother-in-law and many other troops how well things are going, it doesn't add up. When I see liberal after liberal candidate tell me how bad our healthcare system is, and yet people are flocking to the United States for healthcare, it's doesn't really make much sense. When liberals keep telling me how bad the air is, and then I see other top countries in the world having to wear masks it doesn't really add up. Then liberals tell me how bad the economy is and how it's going to go down the shitter soon because of __________, but then oh yeah it doesn't. I don't see how people could live like that honestly. I mean, hell, read the rest of the thread. The OP thought the dollar is in the shitter and going down, no doubt bc of what he sees on the news or hears from other liberals (who probably heard it from the news). Then you have someone who actually looked it up and wow isnt that neat, it's not doin all that bad.

So is the country/world really going down the shitter? Or are all the liberals just saying it is because they don't like who's in charge? (in turn making the blind liberal herd actually believe this shit).

[Testm0nkey]

i see conservatives hating on and screaming about illegal immigrants and gays. so then why are they being so negative. do they hate americans and are racists?

i dont think many people are flocking to america for healthcare. most americans cant afford healthcare here. in most countries its practically free. if you want highly specialized care and have money, you come to america. thats not most people

in your mind america is perfect, not in many other peoples. even republicans. not everyone is going to blindly love everything thats going on because its 'merica

[Mommy]

I dont know what country you live in, Impala, but its not the US. Im neither Republican nor Liberal, but I see things that obviously you don't see.

1) Troops that I have talked to come home saying "It sucks risking for life and not being told why you are there risking it." I was neither for or against going to Iraq in the first place, and I agree that Sadam was an imminent threat; but the execution was bad timing. Who are these troops you talk to? The ones I talk to don't say anything good about being over there.

2) Our healthcare system is great, but it is also complete and utter shit. Doctors in the US can do amazing things to save people's lives or give people with deformities a life they thought they would never have...it all comes at a cost though. If a person doesn't have insurane in this country, they are fucked. I don't have insurance because I'm in school and I'm not covered by my parents. I went to the ER over the summer for kidney stones, and I left there with a $7,000 bill for no more than 2.5 hours there. What's saving someone's life (obviously NOT talking about my little ER visit) if you are just going to leave them in debt for the rest of it? That, sir, is shit.

As for air quality, I don't really care... because I have no evidence to say either way. I haven't read or heard anything convincing enough from either side.

The economy: meh, I see the effects of issues like the mortgage crisis. I think our economy will recover just as it eventually did after 9/11. Gas prices + mortgage crisis = weaker economy (not weak...just weaker than what it was/could be if those situations were not occurring)