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Spectatrix
post Dec 3 2007, 01:57 PM
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Ok, so I'm a little leary about fuel additives. As in, do they do any good or are they just a scam, sucking money from gullible folks wanting to eke another 1 mpg out of their engine?

HEBs around Austin (and elsewhere, I presume) have started tacking on "Additech" machines alongside the pumps, where you can choose to pay some extra moolah and get an additive pumped in along with your gasoline. I do know that their little spiel is bloody obnoxious. What I don't know is if they do any good and whether I should bother trying an additive out one of these days.


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post Dec 3 2007, 02:03 PM
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Nah its just a money grab. Gasoline already has stuff that helps keep your engine clean. If you get some knocking, just use a higher octane fuel every now and then.
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post Dec 3 2007, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 3 2007, 02:03 PM) *
Nah its just a money grab. Gasoline already has stuff that helps keep your engine clean. If you get some knocking, just use a higher octane fuel every now and then.

Wrong


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post Dec 3 2007, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Dec 3 2007, 02:10 PM) *
Wrong

Go ahead and pay for the additive then.
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post Dec 3 2007, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 3 2007, 03:08 PM) *
Go ahead and pay for the additive then.

Oh, sorry, you're just wrong about going up to a higher octane level. That's a dumb idea wink.gif


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Rastaman
post Dec 3 2007, 03:19 PM
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I think the fuel additives work if you have certain carbon build up problems. I use the prestone brand (i think) and it works pretty well. I notice more acceleration and better gas mileage. As far as octane, that is more of a function of your compression ratio, generally a "ping" is caused by gas combusting before the piston is at TDC. So that is why high performance sports cars, with large compression ratios, require higher octane fuel.
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Spectatrix
post Dec 3 2007, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Dec 3 2007, 03:17 PM) *
Oh, sorry, you're just wrong about going up to a higher octane level. That's a dumb idea wink.gif

No, he and Rastaman are right. If your engine is knocking, you need to use a higher octane fuel. If you're using what your service manual calls for and it's still knocking, then there's probably a more serious problem.

I don't have problems with knocking, just curious if the additives actually do help with carbon build-up or anything else they advertise.


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post Dec 3 2007, 03:54 PM
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I'm no physics or mechanical engineering major, but even I know that a higher octane fuel reduces engine knocking because it reduces build-up
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:09 PM
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It's pretty funny when two girls (no offense) are schooling a dude on pretty basic car knowledge.
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:10 PM
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:12 PM
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That stuff seemed to work for me. About 3 more mpg (highway v highway). My vehicle had 60k on it when I ran it with no previous fuel treatments. It is about 7 bucks I think.
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 3 2007, 03:54 PM) *
I'm no physics or mechanical engineering major, but even I know that a higher octane fuel reduces engine knocking because it reduces build-up



I disagree, not that you aren't a mech e or physics major, but that higher octane reduces engine knocking by getting rid of build up. I disagree because you are wrong. See my previous post to explain why higher octane reduces knocking in some cases.
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:16 PM
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over time it does cause build-up from everything I have read.
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 3 2007, 04:16 PM) *
over time it does cause build-up from everything I have read.


What causes buildup? Sweetheart are you sure you wanna believe automotive advice from cosmo, I think they were talking about buildup on hair caused by certain product.
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post Dec 3 2007, 04:21 PM
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Should I really trust someone who comes on HERE to ask for engineering help. You don't have to make fun of me for reading cosmo. tongue.gif its funny
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