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 Nov 29 2007, 09:12 PM
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I just love how psychologists, journalists, interior designers, IE people who are essentially scientifically illiterate somehow magically know enough about atmospheric fluid dynamics, atmospheric chemistry, geology and climate because of what the popular opinion of the US mainstream media is
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Nov 29 2007, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Nov 29 2007, 09:12 PM)  I just love how psychologists, journalists, interior designers, IE people who are essentially scientifically illiterate somehow magically know enough about atmospheric fluid dynamics, atmospheric chemistry, geology and climate because of what the popular opinion of the US mainstream media is hey, fuck you!
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Nov 29 2007, 09:21 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 29 2007, 10:18 PM) hey, fuck you! 
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Nov 29 2007, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Nov 29 2007, 09:12 PM) I just love how psychologists, journalists, interior designers, IE people who are essentially scientifically illiterate somehow magically know enough about atmospheric fluid dynamics, atmospheric chemistry, geology and climate because of what the popular opinion of the US mainstream media is Is anyone on here a climatologist that can give us a definitive answer on this? Didn't think so. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Nov 29 2007, 10:11 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
would my professor whos a PhD in environmental science count?
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Nov 29 2007, 10:15 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 11:11 PM) would my professor whos a PhD in environmental science count? Depends, what is the specialty? Is it atmosphereic fluid dynamics or fucking plant life habitat in arid desert climates? The reason I ask is because I work with two people who have "environmental" degrees, one in biology and one in engineering and they're both complete morons.
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Nov 29 2007, 10:19 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
atmospheric science, climate, and meteorology i believe
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Nov 29 2007, 10:24 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 11:19 PM) atmospheric science, climate, and meteorology i believe shes my atmospheric science professor and i know shes done a lot of extensive climate research Go on ... -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Nov 29 2007, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 05:31 PM) ozone on the surface is bad and is created by things like car emissions ozone on ground bad = smog ozone in atmosphere = necessity - CFC's specifically the breakdown to CL destroys it people just dont know enough! there was a medieval warm period, there was the little ice age. those were caused by natural occurances (huge volcano eruption for one) you make a chart... chart the occurances of natural disruptions to weather... over that chart you lay the warming trend... there is a huge discrepancy... create another layer that shows our increase in pollution, burning of fossil fuels = they line up. thus showing the increase is not natural. thats where the "hockey stick" comes from the BBC has an amazing documentary about it edit: the documentary is called Meltdown. the host is paul rose and its a global warming for dummies with lots of scientific backup of course but made easy to understand For one, we don't know why there was a Medieval warm period. Volcanoes do not cause global warming, they contribute to CO2 emissions but overall they cause cooling due to ash reflecting the sun. I am not sure what you mean "people just don't know enough". Your broad sweeping statement that ozone on the ground is smog is actually false. Smog, for the most part is particulate consisting of NOx and volatile organic compounds. Only sometimes does it actually contain ozone. Oddly enough, volcanoes release a lot of ozone. People just don't know enough.  I may not know weather, but I know pollution. QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 10:19 PM) atmospheric science, climate, and meteorology i believe shes my atmospheric science professor and i know shes done a lot of extensive climate research Is she the old quack? She was my atmo professor... -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Nov 29 2007, 10:27 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
she did research about weather change from a big old boat! then they got that information and presented it to the government and stuff! and then the government ended up not doing anything with it but paid a bunch of economic professors to tell the world their opinions on global warming!
something like that (i said climate change - volcanoes for one. they block solar radiation thus cooling) seriously if a person doesnt believe in global warming they dont have reputable opinions. it is just that obvious -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Nov 29 2007, 10:30 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 11:27 PM) she did research about weather change from a big old boat! then they got that information and presented it to the government and stuff! and then the government ended up not doing anything with it but paid a bunch of economic professors to tell the world their opinions on global warming! something like that (i said climate change - volcanoes for one. they block solar radiation thus cooling) seriously if a person doesnt believe in global warming they dont have reputable opinions. it is just that obvious Do you have any links to papers she's written? I'd be interested in reading them. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Nov 29 2007, 10:31 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
Ground-level ozone, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide and carbon monoxide = smog
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Nov 29 2007, 10:33 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 10:27 PM) (i said climate change - volcanoes for one. they block solar radiation thus cooling) seriously if a person doesnt believe in global warming they dont have reputable opinions. it is just that obvious Did I ever say I don't believe in global warming? I merely said that I do not subscribe to the 'talking head' opinion that we are speeding up the process to the point of self-destruction and that the ice caps are melting because I drive a car that doesn't get enough mpgs. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Nov 29 2007, 10:35 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
heres the first one but i have my own research to do, if you are interested you do it!
(its not about 1 car its about millions of cars) http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?reques...CO%3B2&ct=1 -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Nov 29 2007, 10:39 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 29 2007, 10:31 PM) Ground-level ozone, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide and carbon monoxide = smog Wrong. Ground-level ozone is not present in all smog, nor all pollution. It is present in places where the ozone is trapped, like Tehran and Mexico City. Take for example Houston. We have ozone level warnings and air quality warnings. They distinguish the two because the ozone has to be trapped to become "ground-level" and this only happens within the confines of the downtown buildings. The smog you see around the Galleria, that's actually extremely low in the area of ground-level ozone, whereas the smog downtown is high in ozone and gets worse with heat (part of the reason they built the tunnel system). Test, when you have a free week, I'll take you to a U.S. coal fired power plant and if you have a passport, a Chinese plant, you can look at the ozone levels and sulfur and CO2 output and see the truth with your own eyes. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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