Texas State makes the yahoo.com homepage, over students' rights to carry concealed weapons Options

[FORSAKENR320]

i had to give that up after i got the position from ciro's office. it just wasn't right.

and forsaknr, i wrote the legislation, ciro signed off on it and rallied for it. what the hell have you done for our education system? or society for that matter?

well for one, i haven't decided to jump in and start fucking with shit when i'm obviously not smart enough to know what the hell a concealed handgun permit does.... thats alot more than what i can say for you, from what i've seen of your thoughts and ideas over the past months, i'm sure you hinder the system more than you contribute

[Melanie]

so

what will this legislation do for the kids?

it's not legislation. but if it goes to the state leg and passes, allow students that have chl's to carry their guns onto campus

[FORSAKENR320]

and forsaknr, i wrote the legislation, ciro signed off on it and rallied for it.

it's not legislation.

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[Melanie]

well for one, i haven't decided to jump in and start fucking with shit when i'm obviously not smart enough to know what the hell a concealed handgun permit does.... thats alot more than what i can say for you, from what i've seen of your thoughts and ideas over the past months, i'm sure you hinder the system more than you contribute

i know what a chl does. i have not contributed anything political until now. you know, i'm going to be the bigger person here and not answer your last comment because you obviously don't know me nor have ever met me. in fact, i think this is the first time i actually notice who you are on here.

[Melanie]

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i wrote the tech ed legislation for ciro, not the chl legislation for tx state asg

[RitalinJunkie]

i wrote the tech ed legislation for ciro,

Thats what I was asking about earlier. What does it do?

[Melanie]

Thats what I was asking about earlier. What does it do?

oh! it gave money to tech schools for better facilities, teaching aides (manuals, computers, etc), teachers.

[FORSAKENR320]

i know what a chl does. i have not contributed anything political until now. you know, i'm going to be the bigger person here and not answer your last comment because you obviously don't know me nor have ever met me. in fact, i think this is the first time i actually notice who you are on here.

you obviously DON"T know, since i had to find the info for you, and it showed everything you said to be WRONG.

people should not be allowed to have strong feelings towards anything they know nothing about... much LESS try to make rules that govern other people... no wonder our political system is so fucked up, we get people like you who want to play "House" trying on mommies dresses and crap, messing with crap they don't understand, like a child that found daddies gun, we end up just shooting ourselves in the face because of dumb shits like you, who want to start voting on issues before they even understand what the issue is.

[THECHICKEN]

Well this was going towards a semi-intelligent conversation (more than usual)... oh well, i think most good points got out first

Oh and Mel what do you think of politicians now that you've been in the system? I've had numerous friends say it turned them off to politics when actually witnessing it.

[Melanie]

Well this was going towards a semi-intelligent conversation (more than usual)... oh well, i think most good points got out first

Oh and Mel what do you think of politicians now that you've been in the system? I've had numerous friends say it turned them off to politics when actually witnessing it.

i was thinking the exact same thing. i like how when two people disagree on something political, someone comes out and calls them an idiot. or in my case a stupid cunt. i thought that this was what america was all about, differences but most people have respect for others views. oh well.

and to answer your second part. i've worked on all levels of politics. i did the municipal thing for a year before i headed up here to san marcos and was the public works liasion for a councilwoman. that was probably the most fun i have ever had. i worked for state rep patrick rose, state rep joe farias, and congressman ciro rodriguez on their campaigns... gotv, young adult outreach, that type of stuff and aftee the campaigns i found a way to wiggle myself into their offices. i worked for state rep joe farias in his capitol office and state rep patrick rose on that prop 15 that texas just voted on. and the ciro stuff last. i worked for some pretty amazing people. and i did some lobbying with young democrats of america and college democrats of america on behalf of tax free textbooks and interest rates on student loans, we also did a capitol invasion for planned parenthood at the beginning of the semester. i can for sure tell you one thing though, i love policy so much more than campaigning. i'm not really turned off by politics, i was a few months ago but convinced myself that the only way to change the system was to get in there and get good people elected and write good policy for them. my baby was some legislation in the state house and senate on trans fat free school lunches. it never got heard in committee though. i guess if i could do it all over again, i'd probably work for a senior state senator like leticia van de putte. the only reason i didn't go work for her was our relationship was too personal (she's my godmother) and i didn't want it to strain anything.

but i can see how it would turn people off. it's a dirty game of good ol' boys. you'd be surprised how much of that game is in the state leg and the aides... even interns get in on it. but my hero is sinfronia thompson and her staff was always amazing

[Spectatrix]

it's a dirty game of good ol' boys. you'd be surprised how much of that game is in the state leg and the aides... even interns get in on it.

No, I wouldn't be surprised. Especially after seeing how they vote, I pretty much assume that politics from top to bottom is a dirty game, usually corrupt.

[Melanie]

No, I wouldn't be surprised. Especially after seeing how they vote, I pretty much assume that politics from top to bottom is a dirty game, usually corrupt.

Oh, I meant about the Aides, the aides are just as bad, if not worse. But I knew about their voting for a while. It does make me pretty pissed off about that.

[Jim]

Oh, I meant about the Aides, the aides are just as bad, if not worse. But I knew about their voting for a while. It does make me pretty pissed off about that.

Everything you say is a backpedal.

[Melanie]

I said state leg and the aides, I don't know how I back pedaled, but ok.

[Spectatrix]

I said state leg and the aides, I don't know how I back pedaled, but ok.

I think he's referring to the fact that you implied the "dirty game of good ol' boys" was amongst the state legislators and the aides, but now your'e implying it's just the aides you were talking about.

Oh, and for people that keep equating the PD to CHL holders, big difference. I can actually see the gun on the cop, you can't see the gun for people with CHLs. Just a tad bit against the law. Just so ya know.

Oh, and I know that Brandon has already tried to beat this one to death, but I was never entirely clear on what you meant by this. What are you saying is against the law here?

This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Nov 25 2007, 11:14 AM