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post Nov 17 2007, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Epic @ Nov 17 2007, 10:31 AM) *
yeah, its sad, but i don't know where it says she has dire mental disorders. it said she was on medication, but really not what she had. call me a dick, but in my opinion, most of the "depressed" people really aren't depressed. They just throw that word aroudn to anyone who struggles with life not being perfect. and ADD? learning disorder maybe, but I distinguish between learning disorders and mental problems, but i'm sure some of you will argue with me.

yeah, its fucked up, but her mom new she was on myspace as she was aware of her feelings.

still sad, but i still think that people that kill themselves bear the responsibility of their actions.

but what about the adults that were bullying her? dont they bear the responsibility since they are adults and should know the effects of bullying on a depressed preteen? where the heck were they living that adult neighbors would create a fake myspace account to seduce and tease a kid? thats pretty gross
yes the adults should have definitely stepped in earlier. i would have pulled the plug on her myspace adventures the second i saw my daughter posting "vulgar" messages
but if it werent for those ADULTS that kid wouldnt have killed herself


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post Nov 17 2007, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 17 2007, 11:45 AM) *
but if it werent for those ADULTS that kid wouldnt have killed herself


well...maybe at least. At least it would give her more time to go to a shrink or something and get help other than meds, cause apparently the meds didn't help much.

It is sad, i do think that some sort of prison sentance should come to the adults who were antagonizing her, because that was the final straw that led her to kill herself, at the same time i wonder what her family life was like where she apparently wasnt getting the right kind of help for her problems.


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post Nov 17 2007, 11:35 AM
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no, i don't feel that they pushed her to suicide, she made that choice on her own.

suicide is a coward's way out, its giving up, and although sad, this girl made the choice to kill herself. yeah they're fucked up for messing with a kid, but we just assume that because they are older that they are more mature. and they will be punished to some degree, just as all bullies are punished, but from what i have available in the story, they didn't do anything that i feel would have driven a 13 year old to suicide.

maybe we should also punish her parents for drugging her up at an early age and telling her that its not her fault she's fucked up and that the only way she can change or get better is by pumping herself full of meds.

and while we're at it, every time someone leaves a suicide note blaming someone else for their suicide, we should probably prosecute them too.
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post Nov 17 2007, 11:57 AM
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we already treat adolescents differently according to the law. we dont blame them for doing adult crimes because they are still maturing and dont fully appreciate their actions and the ramifications their actions may have.
but in the case of suicide they fully know what they are doing and its all their fault?
or do you also not believe there should be different prison/incarceration sentences for say 12 year olds who commit crimes?


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post Nov 17 2007, 01:36 PM
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13yr olds with mental disabilities should obviously be held to the same standard of thinking as adults... duh.

How dare a child have medically recognized depression and be hit hard by tormenting adults, and not be able to handle it at age 13... what a stupid bitch in my opinion.

I mean i had a cousin who, as a child, couldn't watch movies where people died because she couldn't grasp that the people were just "acting." How dare she not understand things as a child that we as adults do!

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post Nov 17 2007, 02:28 PM
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yeah, you guys are right, it wasn't her fault that she killed herself. i'm sure that she lost all free will and was destined to hang herself in her closet.

and i still don't by that she was really depressed or had true mental disabilities.

and who am i suggesting we send to prison? obviously not her, she's dead. In fact, i never even suggested that we treat kids and adults the same. But I bet sending these parents to prison will make THEIR kids much more well adjusted and less likely to become disenfranchised with reality and suffer from depression (oh i'm sorry mental DISEASE)

and you're fucking right i hold people responsible for their suicides. Their actions affect everyone close to them, causing more pain, more suffering, all because "someone sent her mean messages."

KIDS GET CALLED FAT, UGLY, STUPID, GAY, RETARDED, AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS ALL THE TIME.

But then again, i'm just jaded to suicide, sue me.
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post Nov 17 2007, 02:37 PM
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she was a vulnerable 13 year old and there were adults that were bullying and pressuring her. but you are right she should have had more sense than some soccer mom?

you cant read the article and say oh sure she didnt have any actual problems or depression. you have more sense then the doctor that prescribed her the medication or the parents that lived with her?

what exactly are you an expert of?


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post Nov 17 2007, 02:43 PM
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that's exactly what i'm saying Test. Everyone is making big assumptions about what was wrong with the girl from very little details. we all know tons of people who are medicated. I know a lot of people who feel that they were improperly medicated as a kid. I'm not saying i'm an expert, but doctors are giving drugs to kids for all kinds of reasons. I just don't see in that article where she was so weak and vulnerable.

You can say that i'm making the assumptions by saying that i don't know what was really wrong with her and i'll say that you are making assumptions about what she was being medicated for. if she was on ritalin, she was being medicated. then suddenly its "medicated teen commits suicide"

and yes, this stems from my personal feelings that people who commit suicide disgust me.
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post Nov 17 2007, 02:46 PM
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i don't see why it matters that she was being manipulated by an adult. she didn't know she was talking to an adult, so what would it matter if the myspace friend was 13 or 50? there are 13 year olds who could probably get some depressed loser (teen or adult) to kill themselves.


i hope her parents feel responsible for this. they let their retard child talk to strangers on the internet. no different than letting diabetic kids loose in a candy store.
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post Nov 17 2007, 03:19 PM
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because an adult should not be preying on kids on the internet
certainly it matters

online predators are a-okay because the kids that are raped are just gullible idiots and its their fault?

its shocking that a 13 year old taking her life because of a bully earns her the right to be called a "depressed loser". please dont have kids


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haha, the moment that i let you be the judge of my character is the day that I kill myself.
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post Nov 17 2007, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 17 2007, 03:19 PM) *
because an adult should not be preying on kids on the internet
certainly it matters

online predators are a-okay because the kids that are raped are just gullible idiots and its their fault?

its shocking that a 13 year old taking her life because of a bully earns her the right to be called a "depressed loser". please dont have kids

the fact that they did it matters, yes, but what they did could have been committed maliciously by anyone, teenage or adult (i guarantee i could have convinced an already suicidal person to kill themselves over the internet when i was 13). she didn't know the difference, would have killed herself either way. if somebody was harrassing my kid, whether 13 or 35, i would expect them to be held equally accountable. are you surprised that an american adult would do this?

this girl wasn't raped or killed, she committed suicide. don't even try to put harrassment on the same level as murder and rape. the only thing shocking here is that her own parents felt it was just dandy to let their mentally retarded kid meet strangers online.

thanks, though, for the tip about having kids, hillary.
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post Nov 17 2007, 04:56 PM
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this isn't sad

this is just plain stupid


a girl committing suicide over a fake internet boyfriend?

holy fucking christ destroy the world now plzkthx


you guys are really jumping the gun here

how do you know she didn't have problems at home? how do you know she wasn't being molested by her father?...someone playing an internet prank wasnt reason enough for someone to kill themself...and if it was...GOOD RIDDANCE...that just means she was that weak minded that she would've killed herself if wal-mart ran out of her favorite bubblegum...


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post Nov 17 2007, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Nov 17 2007, 04:56 PM) *
this isn't sad

this is just plain stupid
a girl committing suicide over a fake internet boyfriend?

holy fucking christ destroy the world now plzkthx
you guys are really jumping the gun here

how do you know she didn't have problems at home? how do you know she wasn't being molested by her father?...someone playing an internet prank wasnt reason enough for someone to kill themself...and if it was...GOOD RIDDANCE...that just means she was that weak minded that she would've killed herself if wal-mart ran out of her favorite bubblegum...




depression is the emotion here, but what if it was anger? someone unstable like this could just as easily decided to say "DAMN! I VILL KEEL EVERYONE IN ZEE WORLD!"


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