Mike Huckabee, Are you KIDDING me?! Options

[blaarg]

let me also remind you that 80% of Americans are Christians (thanks wikipedia)

Thank god (no pun intended) this is changing. Atheists/agnostics are the faster growing "religious sect" (hah). Jumping from 8.4% to 15% in ten years (91-01) with total Christians dropping by 7.3% from 88.4-81.1% in th same period. I'm sure back in the 1400's a majority of over 80% believed the world was flat....

i think this is one of those things where you have to choose your battles. all the candidates running for president (with at least a chance) talk about being very religious (including hilary and obama).

This is fucking sad that it's true. If the statistics hold up that 15% of Americans are non-religious, then there should be 65 congressmen/women who are non-religious. Well how many are there really: 1. I can imagine that there are ample more who are but don't say it because of the reaction of their constituency (sounds very familiar to gay congressmen/women)...

[jonathan83]

Wait, which do you not believe in: 1.) the concept of evolution or 2.) that humans evolved from apes?

the concept is plausible, but not proven. i'm just stating this mainly for devil's advocate purposes (since nobody else is saying it).

[Psykopath]

the concept is plausible, but not proven. i'm just stating this mainly for devil's advocate purposes (since nobody else is saying it).

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You really don't believe that certain traits in life have evolved to better the survival of certain species, etc., etc., etc.?

Also: Do you believe that the Earth is several billion years old, or merely a few thousand?

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Nov 14 2007, 12:57 AM

[blaarg]

so you do realize that you're calling 80% of this country religious zealots, right? because this is a core belief of the christian belief...and also for jews and muslims afaik.

are you kidding me?!?! you really think that all Christians believe in the literal interpretation of the bible regarding creation? I think it would be safe to say that the whole creation Story is regarded as being untrue in at least some religious circles (if not a majority)....the same reason why only three republican candidates raised there hand to say they didn't believe in evolution and a literal interpretation of the bible.

I just figured most Christians viewed it as something mentioned in the bible but they don't necessarily have to believe (you know, kind of like MOST of Leviticus, Numbers, among other things)...

I think a minority of the 80% believe in the creation story, and those are the religious zealots...

[THECHICKEN]

He's a christian... i don't get it. Most every politician is christian in some regard. Don't want to vote for a christian, dont... But i don't see how this guy is anymore conservative/christian than the next. Hes a conservative... and hes christian. His beliefs seem to follow that line of thinking. Nothing devilish about the guy though (not that i would neccesarily vote for him).

[blaarg]

He's a christian... i don't get it. Most every politician is christian in some regard. Don't want to vote for a christian, dont... But i don't see how this guy is anymore conservative/christian than the next. Hes a conservative... and hes christian. His beliefs seem to follow that line of thinking. Nothing devilish about the guy though (not that i would neccesarily vote for him).

Yeah I can vote for a christian, just not someone who doesn't believe in evolution and thinks that god created the earth in 6 days. I think that tells a lot about a person's mental clarity...

[jonathan83]

are you kidding me?!?! you really think that all Christians believe in the literal interpretation of the bible regarding creation?

no, i meant 80% believe in God.

so, you believe that people who believe the earth was created in 6 days are religious zealots...but just being christian (which means you DO believe that jesus was the son of god in human flesh and came back from the dead, etc.) is ok?

because if you think the earth in 6 days thing is weird, you must believe the rest of it is crazy too...which i would assume means you believe all christians are religious zealots.

[jonathan83]

Yeah I can vote for a christian, just not someone who doesn't believe in evolution and thinks that god created the earth in 6 days. I think that tells a lot about a person's mental clarity...

i just don't understand your stance here. you can vote for a christian (someone who believes that men were raised from the dead) but you WON'T vote for someone who believes the earth was created in 6 days?

[jonathan83]

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You really don't believe that certain traits in life have evolved to better the survival of certain species, etc., etc., etc.?

Also: Do you believe that the Earth is several billion years old, or merely a few thousand?

zach...read my last post. i said that i was stating this mainly for the devil's advocate approach.

as far as the earth being billions of years old or thousands? i have no idea. i'm not a scientist. i kinda see both sides. carbon-dating is known to not be that effective, so i dunno. it wouldn't really change my outlook on life either way. i mean, being christian, i believe in god. i don't know how exactly he created the world, but i believe he did in some way. whether it was through evolution, yes, it's possible! but who knows, maybe it happened another way. he could've created the earth in 6 days (through some means i have no way of comprehending), or maybe one day in god's eyes are thousands of years? no clue again.

[theIncredibleEdi...]

I need to lead another Catholic Inquisition!!!
Starting on sending Duane back to Aruba :-P

bitch!

[theIncredibleEdi...]

Wait, can someone explain the "creationism" thing to me? I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, and we know they're all crackpots....but I don't remember them talking about how old they thought the earth was and all that. They just said God created the Earth, and made Eden...put Adam & Eve there, Eve ate the fruit/"peach" (code for vagina - I think she was a lesbo), blah blah blah blah.

[Spectatrix]

Duane - Most Christians believe some interpretation of the creation story put forth in the Book of Genesis. Some believe it allegorically and think that there might have been God-guided evolution involved in creation. Others believe that God created everything as-is over some period of time, not treating the 6 "days" as literal 24-hr days. And yet others believe that everything was created in 6 24-hr days. Many of those are young earth creationists, who ALSO believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old (based on tracing genealogical lines through the Bible).

I personally think the young earthers are nutters.

[THECHICKEN]

Every true christian believes that jesus is the son of god (and actually god) who was resurrected (from death) which science says you can't do. So "logically" you wouldn't be "mental clear" by being a christian at all?

7 day easy bake earth, or god coming back from death, its all just christian belief... i still don't see how huckabee = crazy apples

[Spectatrix]

Hey, but at least he's "Chuck Norris approved"!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/...orris-approved/

[jonathan83]

Every true christian believes that jesus is the son of god (and actually god) who was resurrected (from death) which science says you can't do. So "logically" you wouldn't be "mental clear" by being a christian at all?

7 day easy bake earth, or god coming back from death, its all just christian belief... i still don't see how huckabee = crazy apples

this is the point i'm trying to make as well.