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False Dude
post Oct 10 2007, 03:39 PM
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post Oct 10 2007, 03:39 PM
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American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
http://www.neahin.org/programs/schoolsafet.../statistics.htm

there may be more deaths by choking and drowning but of those how many are murders versus the number of shootings which may very well be mostly intentional? is what my earlier post meant


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post Oct 10 2007, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 10 2007, 03:38 PM) *
keep it coming...it's humorous...


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Testm0nkey
post Oct 10 2007, 03:41 PM
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in my mind basic safety is more important then the freedom to own a firearm. and you dont need to own a gun to be safe and if there were no guns on the street you wouldnt have to protect yourself from them
i also have strict anti gun views

if ladders were known for murdering people id be one to outlaw ladders as well


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post Oct 10 2007, 03:42 PM
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no thanks. I have gone over this til I was blue in the face on here the past few years.

no amount of anything will alter your socialistic antigun vehemence.
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Testm0nkey
post Oct 10 2007, 03:43 PM
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im aware of that im not trying to convince you we are voicing our opinions


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post Oct 10 2007, 03:44 PM
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curious, how would your life suffer without your guns?


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post Oct 10 2007, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 10 2007, 04:44 PM) *
curious, how would your life suffer without your guns?


I wouldn't be able to shoot people and I hate using latters as deadly weapons. I'm lazy.


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post Oct 10 2007, 03:47 PM
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I would feel like I had no penis.

I would feel vulnerable and inept.

I wouldn't have near the self-confidence.
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post Oct 10 2007, 04:02 PM
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ok serious answer...

1. deer hunting wouldn't be nearly as fruitful as I've never bow hunted. boar management would be much more difficult using snares and traps. then killing them would much messier.

2. I would be more nervous about my ability to protect my family from harm as I am not a ninja. the oultlaw will still have a firearm when honest men are disarmed.

3. I would have to find a new hobby that wastes a shitload of my money.

4. I would lose my quiver of honed skills as marksmanship is a perishable one. something I didn't know until I touched a firearm for the first time in a while.

for your info, after I got out of the marines I didn't touch a weapon for several years, and when I did it was a deer rifle. at that point, I realized that while at one point I was a marksmaship instructor and designated marksman, that was not the case anymore. granted my learning curve was small to regain what I had forfeited those couple years, but it was there.

at which point I decided to exercise my rights as an american. you'd better use them or this govt will slowly creep up on them...and be gone before you know it.

there.
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Testm0nkey
post Oct 10 2007, 04:05 PM
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if its nearly impossible to obtain a gun the average street hoodlum (who are the ones breaking into peoples houses) also wont have guns and most likely wont be ninjas either. you shouldnt have to fear for your family other than the fear of not raising them right


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post Oct 10 2007, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 10 2007, 04:38 PM) *
I was kidding with the gun debate...

THERE IS NO KIDDING ON HERE mad.gif













































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post Oct 10 2007, 04:16 PM
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and this conversation belongs in the pussification thread.

once again, lets teach our kids that blaming someone else is the answer. it's the gun's fault! it's the politicians who allowed guns in our country! it's definitely not the fault of the one that pulled the trigger! damn those founding fathers for seeing that allowing their citizens to be well armed meant you'd have a strong country with possibility of instability very low which is exactly what we have blah blah this is a long run on sentence and i'm sure some damn grammar bitch will say something about it i don't care.
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post Oct 10 2007, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 10 2007, 05:02 PM) *
ok serious answer...

1. deer hunting wouldn't be nearly as fruitful as I've never bow hunted. boar management would be much more difficult using snares and traps. then killing them would much messier.

2. I would be more nervous about my ability to protect my family from harm as I am not a ninja. the oultlaw will still have a firearm when honest men are disarmed.

3. I would have to find a new hobby that wastes a shitload of my money.

4. I would lose my quiver of honed skills as marksmanship is a perishable one. something I didn't know until I touched a firearm for the first time in a while.

for your info, after I got out of the marines I didn't touch a weapon for several years, and when I did it was a deer rifle. at that point, I realized that while at one point I was a marksmaship instructor and designated marksman, that was not the case anymore. granted my learning curve was small to regain what I had forfeited those couple years, but it was there.

at which point I decided to exercise my rights as an american. you'd better use them or this govt will slowly creep up on them...and be gone before you know it.

there.


1. So let's ban handguns and assault rifles? I don't see how those are necessary for hunting.
2. I don't understand this argument. A good number of weapons criminals have are stolen from legitimate people. If it's difficult for legitimate folk to get firearms, it's more difficult for criminals to get them too.

3 and 4 are personal reasons, so I won't address them.

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post Oct 10 2007, 04:22 PM
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you're forgetting this lil ol thing called the constitution. right to bear arms isn't in there so you can hunt.
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