 President Ahmadinejad Speaks, at Columbia University and at the United Nations |
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 Sep 25 2007, 10:05 AM
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We (*cough* Bill Clinton *cough*) didn't feel that people like Osama bin Laden were a real threat to us either.
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Sep 25 2007, 10:07 AM
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I don't perceive Iran as an imminent threat.
However, they (the Govt, not people) hate us and our close ally Israel. Aside from speaking at the UN, why should we give them an audience on our land? It's like inviting some dude who fucked your girlfriend over for dinner. I don't have to be "nice" to anyone. |
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Sep 25 2007, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 25 2007, 11:05 AM)  We (*cough* Bill Clinton *cough*) didn't feel that people like Osama bin Laden were a real threat to us either. Ok I think I should have said that Iran isn't a threat to "jeopardize our way of life" It will take more than a couple of terrorist incidents (whether coming from al Qaeda or little Venezualian trained Iranian terrorists) to bring about that... --------------------  |
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Sep 25 2007, 10:34 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
QUOTE (blaarg @ Sep 25 2007, 02:27 AM) I'm curious on how Iran can potentially jeopardize our way of life. I have a hard time believing some 3rd world country (regardless of who it is) will destroy the American way of life. I guess we should watch out for the Ugandans next... Oh btw, my friend came back from Iran. Said that everyone over there thinks that the prez is a puppet anyways and don't particularly care what he says/thinks. Most of the population is more concerned about living day to day than about politics (what a surprise in a poor country). He said that the image of all of Iran being anti-American soldiers willing to die for what they believe in is so ridiculously absurd. Finally, he gave an approximate end to this particular government within 20 years. Oh and almost all places don't have toilets, so they shit in holes. And no trashcans in the street so they just throw their trash on the road. That's about it. americans having no realistic viewpoint on what the rest of the world is like and trusting images a shady media and administration (that has been caught over and over again making up lies to prod the american people) spit out at them?! no never i dont believe it -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Sep 25 2007, 10:49 AM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE americans having no realistic viewpoint on what the rest of the world is like Hell, why even talk about realistic viewpoints when most Americans can't even point out places in the world QUOTE WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed. http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/index.html This article is kind of dated, but I am sure that it is still fairly accurate. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Sep 25 2007, 11:49 AM) Hell, why even talk about realistic viewpoints when most Americans can't even point out places in the world http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/index.html This article is kind of dated, but I am sure that it is still fairly accurate. Uhhh, that's because the people they're polling, are in Iraq. Look, the issue isn't free speech. This was a blatant attempt by Iran's president to make a statement on Al-Jazeera by standing up to the great Satan while in his lair and Columbia gave him the doorway. Let him speak all he wants, I just expected more from a free thinking institution who supposedly supports the freedoms granted to us by living in this country. We have (some) gay rights while Iran's president claimed "we have no problem with homosexuality or AIDS" and he didn't mean they were passive about the subject. He now has a benchmark for his people and we let him voice preposterous comments about the future of Israel and the validity of Palestine. He wants free elections there when he himself wasn't freely elected and his own people hate him. It's almost like he's preparing everyone for some next "act". I think the issue of the American way of life is not in question. We fear the bad people. We feared Stalin, we feared Hitler, we feared Ho Chi Mihn, etc. Iran used to be a great place till the Ayatollah. It's the same with Syria. Damascus used to be the go to spot until that country decided it would try to annihilate Israel itself. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 11:24 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
youre right the iraq example were people in the middle east.
its much better that americans in america cant find ohio or new york on a map -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Sep 25 2007, 11:33 AM
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yeah but does anyone really care where ohio is???
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Sep 25 2007, 12:39 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
horses damn well care. and im tired of them being discounted
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Sep 25 2007, 12:40 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE Uhhh, that's because the people they're polling, are in Iraq. Umm, no they are not. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Sep 25 2007, 01:40 PM) Umm, no they are not. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed. Well, I was being sarcastic (18-24 years olds are in the military, in Iraq, etc.)  But then Testm0nkey pointed out that in the article they polled people in the Middle East as well. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:44 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 25 2007, 01:44 PM) Well, I was being sarcastic (18-24 years olds are in the military, in Iraq, etc.) But then Testm0nkey pointed out that in the article they polled people in the Middle East as well. Ok, got ya on the sarcasm now But, the article did not mention Iraqis being polled. When the article refers to "in the middle east", it is saying that these are the countries in the middle east that Americans could not identify. This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Sep 25 2007, 12:46 PM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Sep 25 2007, 01:44 PM) No, they did not. After re-reading the article for the third time you're right, it's just the way it's worded about the Middle East. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:49 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 25 2007, 01:46 PM) After re-reading the article for the third time you're right, it's just the way it's worded about the Middle East. Yeah, not the best written article in the world. It kind of reminds me of the segment on Jay Leno called "Jay Walking' where he asks ordinary citizens simple questions that they should know. I don't care who you are, if we are at a war with a country you better damn well know where it is on a map. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 12:50 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
still though again with the "we polled 500 people, so that means all of America".
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