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Sep 18 2007, 02:29 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
They weren't arresting him though, they were only removing him Doesn't matter. If you are in the hands of a police officer and forcibly remove the hands (as did this guy) it's resisting or assault, depending on how nice the cop is. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:31 PM
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![]() POTATO OLES Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Newark, NJ Member No.: 17 |
How did he not resist? After the dude had to practically pick him up and carry him to the back of the auditorium he gets lose and tries to run back towards back past them at which point they take him to the ground.
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Sep 18 2007, 02:32 PM
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Sep 18 2007, 02:33 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
yea. i bonded out a guy yesterday for "assault on a public servant"
the guy was being cuffed and accidently stepped on the cops foot. its bullshit, but the cops can do it -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:33 PM
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and usually in this type of a situation, you're warrant a taser?
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Sep 18 2007, 02:34 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:35 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
Also, from the video you posted cmac, you can't tell what is happening.
QUOTE You can see in the videos that his questioning gets kind of inappropriate, so somebody cut his mic. Instead of shutting up, he starts yelling and making an even bigger scene. From the Daily Kos article. When he starts yelling, the police remove him. Kerry says "I'll answer his question". Apparently someone was telling the cops to remove this guy because they don't just start throwing people out for no reason. In your video, he starts pulling away from the cops even with his "hands in the air". He can try to play the innocent, look at me, police brutality card all he wants but if he had just gone along with it they probably would have led him outside, let him go and his video still would have been all over the internet. Instead he just looks like an idiot. I guess he could consider himself lucky that he doesn't live somewhere like Germany where they'll just tear gas your ass, no questions asked. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:35 PM
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the fact is...that I think some are overlooking...not whether the kid had the RIGHT to speak, whether or not Kerry was going to answer his question, whether or not the cops were overstepping their bounds, whether or not condoleeza is a dyke...none of that matters.
all that matters is, the cops were trying to subdue/escort the kid and he put up a fight. that is an automatic beatdown in cop terms. period. |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:36 PM
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even if he was told to ask the question and leave, they didn't even let him get that far.
he was cut off mid sentence. i interpret "ask the question then leave" as: ask question. finish question. listen to answer. leave -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 18 2007, 02:36 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
In the video that cmac posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag...%2F125041%2F427
At around the 1:48 mark he resists. It's clear. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:37 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
yeah but what was he bein cuffed for? possession of marijuana <2oz DFZ failure to identify no liability insurance -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:38 PM
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i'll be interested to see if there is a lawsuit or if cops are put on paid leave from this.
-------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 18 2007, 02:39 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
even if he was told to ask the question and leave, they didn't even let him get that far. he was cut off mid sentence. i interpret "ask the question then leave" as: ask question. finish question. listen to answer. leave It doesn't matter. He was asked to stop. He didn't. This isn't a free speech issue. He cut, was asked to leave, he got cut off. Who cares if Kerry was going to answer the question. The way the guy was talking, he was going to keep asking questions. He asked about 4 in 15 seconds, then lashes out at Kerry. But again, that isn't the issue. The issue is that the cops escorted him out and he resisted. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:41 PM
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Oh, and to answer a question posed previously, I'm not going anywhere if a cop doesn't tell me why I'm being arrested, what the charge is, etc.
Years back my friend got pulled over. Cop refused to tell him why he was being pulled over, even though he wasn't speeding nor breaking any traffic laws. My friend, in a mature manner, stated he was not showing the cop any insurance or form of identification until he was told what the charge was. Cop pulled his gun on him, arrested him, and searched his car without a warrant. After my friend hired a lawyer and he actually fought it, all charges were dropped and the cop was suspended for two weeks with pay. -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Sep 18 2007, 02:43 PM
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After my friend hired a lawyer and he actually fought it, all charges were dropped and the cop was suspended for two weeks with pay. so the cop got a two week vacation? damn... -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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