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post Aug 29 2007, 03:21 PM
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/29/f...aig-belongs-to/
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post Aug 29 2007, 03:29 PM
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don't think crooksandliars.com is biased?

a couple things...

1. how does the lack of showing the person's party mean the network is biased? if CNN does show it, does that mean they're biased? that's f'n stupid.

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As Media Matters points out, on August 27th, between 5:00pm and 11:00pm, FOXNews devoted just 3:47 seconds to the Larry Craig scandal as opposed to 8:26 from MSNBC and 20:38 from CNN

so how is this instantly "FOXNews is biased" and not "CNN is biased for spending so much time on it"??
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post Aug 29 2007, 03:31 PM
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Not naming what party someone is from is "bias"...

i guess if you think weak, and easily overlooked mis-types or non-types are bias... I've seen worse "bias" towards leaning left on other networks... but you don't see me bitching about how they pitch thier news.


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post Aug 29 2007, 03:38 PM
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Convenient that they don't link the article. These all explicitly state that Craig is a Republican:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295005,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Aug29/0,4...eyCraig,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294998,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294939,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294852,00.html

And these give enough information to infer that he's Republican:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294978,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294953,00.html


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post Aug 29 2007, 03:38 PM
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Both of you totally overlooked the part where Fox News switches the "R" symbol to a "D" when the Republicans get in trouble.

Fox news was blasted for that, so instead of switching the party they just plain don't report it.

Also, if you don't think that Craig article was written to influence you to think a certain way then you probably think that the following is a good unbiased polling question:

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post Aug 29 2007, 03:39 PM
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I've heard Fox news pay reporters to report certain news, or something similar...


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post Aug 29 2007, 03:41 PM
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I was totally gonna post pretty much exactly what lance just said:

They will actually change party affiliations when one of their own gets in trouble.

And seriously? You guys seriously don't think fox is biased?

I mean, come the fuck on. I'm not saying CnL isn't biased as well (they're quite liberal) but shit, Fox is outright right.

edit: And impala, you're selectively dissecting posts again, just like fox news. I love how you skip the parts that lance points out because they don't support your argument. Color me not surprised.

This post has been edited by zetec: Aug 29 2007, 03:44 PM


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post Aug 29 2007, 03:47 PM
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I don't watch/read Fox News enough to know for sure that it's biased, but I suspect that it is. But I'm wary of trusting obviously biased sources (in this case, crooksandliars.com) in their criticism of other entities. *shrugs* And, as I pointed out, there were plenty of articles on Fox News that clearly identified Craig as a Republican.

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post Aug 29 2007, 03:55 PM
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Yeah, you really do have to take CnL with a (big) grain of salt, but every now and then they point out something that's pretty hard to refute. It's the same way with Fox News though.


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post Aug 29 2007, 04:00 PM
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wow we're down to comparing fox news to fucking crooks and liars.com.

i didnt "ignore" the R&D switch crap, that's old ass news that they're reposting. the "new" news is that they simply didn't include his party. despite the fact that christine shows you seven different links where they DO include his party, you guys still come up with these completely dumb ass conspiracy theories.

wtf do you think is going on? some GOP pres candidate is paying off fox news to subtley change a D to an R every now and then, so they'll win the f'n presidency? my God and you dipshits have the gall to call everyone else 'uneducated'
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post Aug 29 2007, 09:53 PM
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When I looked yesterday they had a giant picture of him next to the story on Foxnews' homepage and had the police report posted also. I don't remember if it specifically said he was a Republican, but it was the first article I read about the incident and I knew he was a Rep. after that, so I assume it did.

They have the pretty pictures on that CnL link that shows that those two guys are Dems, but I don't know if the corresponding audio mentions them being Dems or Reps. Could just be a graphic mistake by some moron PA, we all know that happens in TV.

Christine posted enough links to show that Foxnews isn't trying to hide the fact that he's a Republican. And Foxnews is "biased" because they spent 4 and a half minutes less time on the story than MSNBC in a 6 hour block?! Wouldn't it be just as easy to claim that CNN is biased against Republicans because they spent over twice as much time on it as MSNBC?


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post Aug 30 2007, 07:38 AM
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Who the #$(% cares if they're biased or not. You don't have to watch them, you can watch your own biased CNN or MSNBC. Just because it's your personal preference does not make it any less biased (no matter what Crooks and Liars says)


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post Aug 30 2007, 11:08 AM
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post Aug 30 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 29 2007, 05:00 PM) *
wow we're down to comparing fox news to fucking crooks and liars.com.

i didnt "ignore" the R&D switch crap, that's old ass news that they're reposting. the "new" news is that they simply didn't include his party. despite the fact that christine shows you seven different links where they DO include his party, you guys still come up with these completely dumb ass conspiracy theories.

wtf do you think is going on? some GOP pres candidate is paying off fox news to subtley change a D to an R every now and then, so they'll win the f'n presidency? my God and you dipshits have the gall to call everyone else 'uneducated'


On the other hand, do you honestly believe it was a mistake to label Mark Foley a Democrat?

Either way, this article does seem to be a bunch of liberal bias (although I do agree that Fox News is biased)


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post Aug 30 2007, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Aug 30 2007, 12:13 PM) *
On the other hand, do you honestly believe it was a mistake to label Mark Foley a Democrat?

Either way, this article does seem to be a bunch of liberal bias (although I do agree that Fox News is biased)

i would believe it was a conspiracy if there was something for someone else to gain from it
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