US compared to Rome Options

[Divergent Realit...]

thats because people don't give a shit about geography class

ding ding.

we have a winnah.

the little shits dont care.

[impala454]

i didn't say they don't care, i said they don't care about geography class. it doesn't mean they're stupid.

[THECHICKEN]

i didn't say they don't care, i said they don't care about geography class. it doesn't mean they're stupid.

...riiiggghhhtttt

[The Fanatic]

Stupid little uninterested shits

[Divergent Realit...]

i didn't say they don't care, i said they don't care about geography class. it doesn't mean they're stupid.

maybe i should include my implied parts in parenthesis...

ding ding.

we have a winnah.

the little shits dont care (about geography).

[impala454]

heheh

hell my degree was like: 3.5 in CS, 3.9 in math, crap in the rest

[blaarg]

Compared to a lot of countries our K-12 system really really under-prepares kids, especially in public schools.
I can tell this from a math perspective (since this is what I know most).

We are getting surpassed by leaps and bounds from Eastern European countries (Romania for one), Central Asian countries (India, Russia) and Eastern Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea). If you have ever seen text books from any of these regions you would understand. Here in the states we teach math as mostly repetition (here are 120323094 integration problems: DO THEM!) while there they teach methods and strategies to solve way more difficult problems. That is why when you look up American Mathematical Olympiad teams (the top students in math) the majority of them are either immigrants or 2nd generation immigrants.

As for the higher education system reason "We have students all around come here to study." One reason that you might be overlooking is because schools in the above mentioned countries are VERY difficult to get into. Take the India Institute of Technology who had 198,000 applicants in 2005 and a little over 3,000 got in (less than 2%!). Compare that to say, idk, Harvard with an acceptance rate of 10.3% for 2007 (the LOWEST of any Ivy League school). So naturally those that don't get accepted come to the US to study where admittance is a lot less competitive.

[impala454]

That is why when you look up American Mathematical Olympiad teams (the top students in math) the majority of them are either immigrants or 2nd generation immigrants.

funny i always thought it was because their parents beat the shit out of them if they make a B, and they have no social life, not the quality of the schools.

[THECHICKEN]

Compared to a lot of countries our K-12 system really really under-prepares kids, especially in public schools.
I can tell this from a math perspective (since this is what I know most).

We are getting surpassed by leaps and bounds from Eastern European countries (Romania for one), Central Asian countries (India, Russia) and Eastern Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea). If you have ever seen text books from any of these regions you would understand. Here in the states we teach math as mostly repetition (here are 120323094 integration problems: DO THEM!) while there they teach methods and strategies to solve way more difficult problems. That is why when you look up American Mathematical Olympiad teams (the top students in math) the majority of them are either immigrants or 2nd generation immigrants.

As for the higher education system reason "We have students all around come here to study." One reason that you might be overlooking is because schools in the above mentioned countries are VERY difficult to get into. Take the India Institute of Technology who had 198,000 applicants in 2005 and a little over 3,000 got in (less than 2%!). Compare that to say, idk, Harvard with an acceptance rate of 10.3% for 2007 (the LOWEST of any Ivy League school). So naturally those that don't get accepted come to the US to study where admittance is a lot less competitive.

Wait... Romania has us beat? Holy shit. If those damn gypsy ass people are beating us then that should speak for itself...

[impala454]

watch out the romanian K-12s are gonna take over america!

[False Dude]

rome fell because of "catholicism" and Charles V

so watch out for those 'razy habsburgs, america

-testm0

[pysex]

i'm assuming most of your morons came from crappy schools, which is why you are arguing that our educational system sucks.
i received most of my education from an amazing school district... and then i moved to texas during my senior year; it was like going back to eighth grade. go figure.

texas gets poor performance ratings because of all the goddamn illegals and lazy motherfuckers that don't complete high school

we dropped to 25th place in the smart state rankings...

the states with highest hispanic populations were ranked some of the worst in the united states

[False Dude]

my school sucked and it had nothing to do with anything other than just sucking. my schools in Minnesota and Connecticut where of almost the exact same makeup and where much better. I would guess Texas's current lack of good schools may have to do with its current rate of growth. Building 5 new high schools in a city ever year doesn't lend itself to excellence.

(testm0- i went to great schools here in TX. i had quite a few people from my class go to great universities and ivy league schools. and that had little to do with parents money and more with the kind of schooling they received because of the people i can think of that went to Princeton, Harvard, MIT, CAL Tech their families had less money than mine and more kids)

[chook]

rome fell because of "catholicism" and Charles V

so watch out for those 'razy habsburgs, america

-testm0

Rome got sacked many times before. It actually fell the final time because Rome was greedy and wouldn't make the Vandals citizens.

[GOB]

texas gets poor performance ratings because of all the goddamn illegals and lazy motherfuckers that don't complete high school

we dropped to 25th place in the smart state rankings...

the states with highest hispanic populations were ranked some of the worst in the united states

we were dumped in a private school down here. it was ridiculously easy, so i guess the parents were just paying for the grades. i stuck it out for the whole year (because the girls were also ridiculously easy), but my brother ended up going to a public school after a semester. he said the "regular" classes were the same way.

25th actually seems pretty high. i would have guessed in the upper 30's at best.

but i do see what you're saying. dallas public schools are hilariously bad. they have entire schools that are literally just a bunch of trailers surrounding a cafeteria and gym, and it's because of all the mexicans.