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Dogmeat
post Aug 6 2007, 03:52 PM
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Ok, this is embarassing, but Calc II was far and away my worst subject in all of college.

Let's say you have a 1/x function and you actually need to integrate this for a purpose instead of just for fun, so you have limite of integration on it.

considering the integral of 1/x is ln (x) ...

what do you do again if one of your limits of integration is 0 ...?

mathematically you get infininty if you integrate this because the ln of 0 is infinity .... BUT.

I actually need to figure out a way to quantify this equation for a useful purpose believe it or not.

All my old calc books are still packed up so I can't go look at them and I can't find a tutorial on the internet.

Help! I'm retarded!


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post Aug 6 2007, 04:15 PM
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dude, go buy a ti-89 and use the integration function
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Dogmeat
post Aug 6 2007, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (1up @ Aug 6 2007, 04:15 PM) *
dude, go buy a ti-89 and use the integration function


yeah this is one of those times a calculator doesn't help you but I realized my approach to this problem was wrong, so I'm re-doing it and should wind up without an indefinate integral or whatever....


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post Aug 6 2007, 06:24 PM
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The integral would be infinity. *shrugs*

But apparently you were doing it wrong, so this was an unnecessary response?


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post Aug 6 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Aug 6 2007, 06:24 PM) *
The integral would be infinity. *shrugs*

But apparently you were doing it wrong, so this was an unnecessary response?


Well, I was trying to make the problem simpler than it was.

Now that it's more complicated it's easier to solve.

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post Aug 6 2007, 11:05 PM
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yet another area in which my philosophy degree has proved useless
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post Aug 6 2007, 11:41 PM
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so, why were you trying to integrate the area?


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post Aug 7 2007, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Aug 7 2007, 12:05 AM) *
yet another area in which my philosophy degree has proved useless



at least you have your vagina degree to fall back on.


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ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded.


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post Aug 7 2007, 08:38 AM
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ooh ice-burn

and dogmeat what in God's name are you trying to do?
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:44 AM) *
at least you have your vagina degree to fall back on.



At least she has a degree...


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post Aug 13 2007, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Aug 13 2007, 09:15 PM) *
At least she has a degree...



pay $50,000 and have a useless degree.....

what is so good about having it again?


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post Aug 13 2007, 08:36 PM
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i got a masters in engineering...and still i dont know


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post Aug 13 2007, 11:04 PM
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That is probably a bad thing, yes?


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post Aug 14 2007, 04:20 AM
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QUOTE (schwab @ Aug 13 2007, 09:36 PM) *
i got a masters in engineering...and still i dont know




well, i see your degree as useful. it actually opens up a alot of good job options....

it's not a waste of money.


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post Aug 15 2007, 03:14 PM
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Mathematics grad student to the rescue. You can't integrate it with the bottom limit of zero, you'll get infinity. If you're doing something where you're integrating to 0 then you're probably doing it wrong. Perhaps you could explain the problem and I should be able to help you out.

A little explanation. Since you have a bound that doesn't exist you actually take the limit of the integral from N to whatever and then evaluate with the limit of N approaching 0. But once again you'll get

lim N -> 0 [ ln(l) - ln(N) ] = ln(l) - (-inf). Where l is your upper bound. I'd use b as your bound but it keeps making smiley faces like this cool.gif
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