Article on Global Warming Options

[Dogmeat]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/...in1415985.shtml

I am seriously getting to the point I don't know what to believe on this.

A big part of me says it's completley obvious that dumping millions of tons of CO2 into our atmosphere is a bad thing, but there's propaghanda on both sides of the aisle....I've seen just as much bullshit out of the "environmental people" as I have the "energy people" so to speak.

What do you all think?

[moebary]

What they forgot to mention about the Greenland ice sheet is that while some of it is melting, other parts of it are getting thicker.

And even without the human produced CO2, this is something our climate does, IT CHANGES.

[Seeker]

What they forgot to mention about the Greenland ice sheet is that while some of it is melting, other parts of it are getting thicker.

And even without the human produced CO2, this is something our climate does, IT CHANGES.

I'd rather the changes be natural changes instead of changes because of human actions.

[M1N10N]

global warming IS occuring ... however, measuring the effects is a little tricky.

I think the best measure would be sea level (this still has errors of measure, since land moves, sinks, etc)

another good measure is probably climate zones at certain latitudes. Like if the (now) temperate zones start creeping into the (previously) permafrost zones. or whatever is next to each other.

It is hard to say how much the USA will impact it. Global warming is a GLOBAL problem. China and India is MAJOR manufacturing countries and huge pollutors. Rain forest in south america and africa are being removed (think of plants like carbon reserves) and deforestation is everywhere.

It is impossible to figure who has the rights to pump out how much pollution. We have already passed a max, meaning ALL developed nations will already want all the rights and developing nations cannot even have a chance. This bring moral dillemas on who has the right to be the most advanced.

[M1N10N]

What they forgot to mention about the Greenland ice sheet is that while some of it is melting, other parts of it are getting thicker.

And even without the human produced CO2, this is something our climate does, IT CHANGES.

"climate" should stay the same "weather" should change

[moebary]

"climate" should stay the same "weather" should change

no, climate also changes, just on a lot larger time scale

[moebary]

I'd rather the changes be natural changes instead of changes because of human actions.

so would I

this quote from Bush is probably the most accurate thing he's ever said

We do not know how fast change will occur, or even how some of our actions could impact it.

This post has been edited by moebary: Mar 21 2006, 10:37 AM

[impala454]

I'd rather the changes be natural changes instead of changes because of human actions.

how are changes because of humans not natural? we inhabit this earth just like any other living thing.

[nickluto]

We are producing bigot super-hurricanes that target black people because we drive SUVs.

[Seussninja]

how are changes because of humans not natural? we inhabit this earth just like any other living thing.

but we're the only animal on this planet that releases unnatural gases into the air

[M1N10N]

but we're the only animal on this planet that releases unnatural gases into the air

/me wonders if others will get teh sarcasm

[Jwilly]

but we're the only animal on this planet that releases unnatural gases into the air

:plop:

[impala454]

but we're the only animal on this planet that releases unnatural gases into the air

yeah but we're part of the planet. everything we create comes from the planet and is returned back to the planet in some way. what line did we cross going from beating animals with sticks and eating them to flying 747s that makes it unnatural?

[Slutter McGee]

I hope my children evolove gills like Kevin Costner. Personally, I think its a crock of shit. The earth has been heating up and cooling down in various patterns for millions of years.

[GOB]

We are producing bigot super-hurricanes that target black people because we drive SUVs.

just as planned