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 Aug 3 2007, 09:11 AM
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well from playin around w/my coworker's iphone, i found out pretty quick most of the little 'features' on the main screen are just mobile websites in disguise. i.e. the youtube button just goes to this mobile site. http://m.youtube.com/?warned=yes
and major BS on a faster network costing you more battery. gimme a freakin break. your wifi radio costs you way more battery than any cell radio. |
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Aug 3 2007, 10:02 AM
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YouTube is not just a link to the mobile page. It's a specialized app that has all the videos in H.264 format for faster viewing on the phone.
battery life is reduced 23% using 3G vs EDGE, and using WiFi actually makes the battery life last longer. http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3036 edit: during web browsing. This post has been edited by cmac: Aug 3 2007, 10:07 AM -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Aug 3 2007, 03:16 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 3 2007, 11:02 AM)  YouTube is not just a link to the mobile page. It's a specialized app that has all the videos in H.264 format for faster viewing on the phone. it's the same f'n page. verbatim. it has had videos in mpeg4 format (H.264) for longer than the iphone has been around. QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 3 2007, 11:02 AM) battery life is reduced 23% using 3G vs EDGE, and using WiFi actually makes the battery life last longer. http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3036 edit: during web browsing. it's not because their wifi is better, it's because edge sucks that bad. |
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Aug 4 2007, 01:01 AM
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 Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
Css-less bullet form of a web page? what the fuck are you talking about? Windows mobile has been able to render CSS for YEARS. You can get the full page of any page, I have no idea what this "every other phone" bullshit is.
You bought a SMARTPHONE. (a shitty one, but that's what it is.) Smartphones have had full internet access for fucking EONS. (With the possible exception of blackberrys, i'm not sure on that one but it doesn't really matter because blackberrys suck even more) As far as you being BFF's with steve jobs and reading his diary, perusing his innermost thoughts on battery design, i'm calling load of shit. It shouldn't be an issue anyways, my phone uses 3G and the battery is MORE than sufficient. Oh, and it's REMOVEABLE. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Aug 4 2007, 01:51 AM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 3 2007, 10:11 AM) well from playin around w/my coworker's iphone, i found out pretty quick most of the little 'features' on the main screen are just mobile websites in disguise. i.e. the youtube button just goes to this mobile site. http://m.youtube.com/?warned=yes and major BS on a faster network costing you more battery. gimme a freakin break. your wifi radio costs you way more battery than any cell radio. This is why lots of EE's hate that CS majors don't understand their systems. Wifi has more bandwidth because the distances are shorter. Signal loss is cubed function in the best case in non-directional antennas. The reason 3G and EDGE use more power is that each bit takes bukos power to run when compared to any of the wifi schemes. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Aug 4 2007, 01:38 PM
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Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 3 2007, 11:02 AM) YouTube is not just a link to the mobile page. It's a specialized app that has all the videos in H.264 format for faster viewing on the phone. battery life is reduced 23% using 3G vs EDGE, and using WiFi actually makes the battery life last longer. http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3036 edit: during web browsing. specialized app my ass. Almost everything on the iphone is a freaking lameass webapp, god help you if you need to entertain yourself on a plain or some shit. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Aug 4 2007, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 3 2007, 04:16 PM) it's the same f'n page. verbatim. it has had videos in mpeg4 format (H.264) for longer than the iphone has been around. it's not because their wifi is better, it's because edge sucks that bad. I guess the question is, can you watch YouTube videos on your phone? Me either. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Aug 4 2007, 10:54 PM
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 N O E S Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Hieuston, TX Member No.: 42 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Aug 4 2007, 11:40 PM) I guess the question is, can you watch YouTube videos on your phone? Me either. yes. i can. and i don't have an iphone. --------------------   |
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Aug 4 2007, 11:07 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (chook @ Aug 4 2007, 02:51 AM) This is why lots of EE's hate that CS majors don't understand their systems. Wifi has more bandwidth because the distances are shorter. Signal loss is cubed function in the best case in non-directional antennas. The reason 3G and EDGE use more power is that each bit takes bukos power to run when compared to any of the wifi schemes. ok mr pompus ass EE genius, tell me why wifi drains the shit out of my cell phone's battery vs the sprint cell network. why would wifi be more battery draining with one system and less battery draining on another? and the distances aren't the only difference between the two, come on. I don't get 54 Mbps just because I'm parked next to the cell tower. |
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Aug 4 2007, 11:08 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Aug 4 2007, 11:40 PM) I guess the question is, can you watch YouTube videos on your phone? uh, yeah, i go to m.youtube.com just like the iphone does... in fact, the guy at work who has the iphone wanted to race me and my ppc6700 beat his iphone by like 6 seconds on loading the same youtube video. |
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Aug 4 2007, 11:09 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Tygriss @ Aug 4 2007, 11:54 PM) yes. i can. and i don't have an iphone. Well the question wasn't directed at you but what phone do you have? -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Aug 4 2007, 11:10 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 5 2007, 12:08 AM) uh, yeah, i go to m.youtube.com just like the iphone does... in fact, the guy at work who has the iphone wanted to race me and my ppc6700 beat his iphone by like 6 seconds on loading the same youtube video. You guys sit around with stop watches? As far as I know, the YouTube feature was a last second thing. I personally have no interest in wasting my time watching YT... It's funny that some of us say cmac is stupid for "wasting" so much money on a phone when a lot of us have spent similar amounts on our own. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:47 AM
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Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Aug 4 2007, 11:40 PM) I guess the question is, can you watch YouTube videos on your phone? Me either. actually most phones can now. QUOTE (Hartmann @ Aug 5 2007, 12:09 AM) Well the question wasn't directed at you but what phone do you have? any phone that supports 3gp video can do it. In fact, it's actually a bit MORE of a hassle to get it going on a WM phone (although simple after you get it working) than a normal handset (ie, a sprint fusic, or any decently new phone that has come out in the last year. Even most newer razrs can do it.) -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Aug 5 2007, 12:50 AM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
yeah hartmann, you do have a point. I spent 200 on the fusic when I got it. I like the gps and using opera mini, but it sucks for battery life.
Chuck, what are you doing with the phones during each mode is the big question. I was just arguing power per bit. Lot more bandwidth comes more clock cycles. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Aug 5 2007, 09:39 AM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 1,591 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 31 |
go to myspace on your phone.
go ahead. i'll wait.... This post has been edited by cmac: Aug 5 2007, 09:40 AM -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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