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post Jul 20 2007, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Jul 20 2007, 12:54 PM) *



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post Jul 20 2007, 04:36 PM
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Vick has not been suspended.

He MIGHT be asked to take a voluntary leave of abscense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2943276
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post Jul 20 2007, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE (James @ Jul 20 2007, 12:13 AM) *
Yeah, but they're not doing it to people. The science community even draws a line between people and animals - we can do all kinds of tests on animals that we can't do on people. Why? Because they're value is perceived to be less. Their populations can mature faster than humans, so if we mess up, it's ok, just make another.

I don't think it's fair to compare someone's pet to a random dog on the street either. The pet is often treated as a person, but these fighting dogs are always treated as animals. Beating a pet is like beating a person and pretty sick, but beating an animal is different somehow, even if the dogs are the same species...hell, even from the same litter.

i just think youre wrong. every lab that tests on animals is bound to ethical treatment contracts. you wont find any lab or scientist hanging or electrocuting a dog.
i... i cant even say anything against that. so beating animals for no reason is perfectly fine as long as its not someones direct pet? and they werent just beating them these people were torturing and murdering them
i agree with senile old byrd - there is a special place in hell where animal abusers go
if you want to think of man as the ultimate species and everything else as "lower animals" then wouldnt that include some sort of clause about being the most humane, not treating others like animals? i mean if we are going to be above "animal" behavior ourselves. and because of our position in the earthly society we have a duty and responsibility to these "lower" animals


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post Jul 22 2007, 03:34 PM
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...20072vick1.html

Vick is FUCKED.


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post Jul 22 2007, 04:29 PM
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you kill some animals while hunting and it is sporting, legal, taxed, and a billion dollar industry.

you watch some animals kill each other, or organize such an event, and suddenly its against the law.

i'm an animal lover too, tried being a vegetarian just couldn't do it, but i don't think that he is such a horrible person because of this. he's not selling drugs to children or anything, which is worse in my opinion.

and if any being ever comes by and knocks us off the top of the foodchain, i wouldn't be surprised if we suddenly became sporting again. we're at the top, we make the rules.
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post Jul 22 2007, 07:07 PM
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they have video, audio, several federal witnesses. he was fucked before fingerprints.

no just to see if the justice system will try to look legit for once



its despicable behavior not one for something that should be all that humans are supposed to be. no animals kill each other for sport, yes premeditated murder, not sport
where do you think these drugs deals are happening? drugs are second only to watching animals get raped and torn apart in dog fights. thats if the only crime you care about is illegal substances

selling drugs to kids, where are the parents? not many 8yr olds are purchasing drugs. tearing an animal apart? that doesnt cause a person to stop and think about what else is going on with this person?

Vick should "accidently" fall into the ring with his 50 plus abused violent pitbulls (if they were still alive) and see how much appreciation hes racked up with them. not really but thatd be an eye for an eye

abusing a creature to that extent, even a "lesser" creature is worse than selling drugs. takes a special kind of person. and that kind of person shouldnt be walking free

edit: after reading the entire summance for vick i dont see where it says they have finger prints, it says they took his fingerprints. im assuming with the mountain of evidence they have against the guy they would have already be able to legally attain them to compare to ones found among all the blood in his basement

im including this because of the possibility some people may be so backwoods they are not aware
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Science has proven that animals feel and respond to pain, stress and fear similarly to humans. A dog in distress will exhibit near identical physiological responses to a human in distress. The central nervous system of a canine - just like that of a human - is truly a marvel. We also know that dogs are intelligent and emotional creatures. Dogs (and other animals) that are abused feel both the physical and emotional pain of the abuse and - again, like humans - they attempt to alleviate that pain by fight or flight.

if you need a scientific study to prove this go swallow a knife because theres no hope for you to get any more intelligent
what does science call people who dont and cant exhibit any form of empathy? sociopaths


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post Jul 22 2007, 10:33 PM
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like a charm.

and its funny how you wish harm on those who don't agree with you

isn't that abusing or wishing pain on a "lesser creature"

no need to answer, i got what i came here for.
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post Jul 22 2007, 11:12 PM
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They took fingerprints because that's what they do to get you on record. They took fingerprints, mugshots and pictures of his tats all to get him on file. They aren't trying to make a case off of his prints. He owns the house, so I don't think they can "bust" him for having his fingerprints in the house. I heard a while back that they had him on video at the fights, but haven't heard any reputable source report it since then.


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post Jul 23 2007, 12:00 AM
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dog fighting is cruel.

now cat fighting is something i'd pay to see.

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rotweiler/pit bill fighting is cool, let those useless beasts maul each other to death instead of people.
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:22 PM
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according to espn there will probably be a decision this afternoon from either the NFL or the Falcons on whether or not they will suspend him
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Epic @ Jul 22 2007, 11:33 PM) *
like a charm.

and its funny how you wish harm on those who don't agree with you

isn't that abusing or wishing pain on a "lesser creature"

no need to answer, i got what i came here for.

you are too serious! and hunting = dog cage fighting sure
but at least a person is not totally defenseless if you took "swallow a knife" seriously and cried

AHHH pitbulls etc are not useless monsters. the monsters that are created are created because of people like Vick. come on impala trace back the path of reasoning


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post Jul 23 2007, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 23 2007, 01:00 AM) *
edit:
rotweiler/pit bill fighting is cool, let those useless beasts maul each other to death instead of people.

You really are retarded... interesting..

perhaps a Conan movie style slave fight for useles humans beings (such as yourself) is in order to get rid of the worthless for entertainment value...

It'd be "cool"


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post Jul 23 2007, 09:17 PM
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'useless dogs vs useless humans' would become the new ultimate fighting



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post Jul 26 2007, 07:54 PM
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Testmonkey still gots that monkey pic.


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post Jul 27 2007, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Jul 20 2007, 11:30 AM) *
I don't know either, that is why i condone it.


dammit got in here late...she's misused the word a few times already...

I "condemn" any type of sport fight to the death.

anyway, dog fighting is sick and sad. torturing animals is indicative of a sick or young mind. some young children rip wings off butterflies or whatnot to figure out what happens. but an adult torturing an animal for sport is whack.

forr defense...go right on ahead.

some things need killing. that is a fact of life. I have no problem with killing and have plenty of blood on my hands, but never was it for amusement.

but c'mon...hunting is hunting. don't be ignorant and confuse hunting and dog fighting.
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