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Rastaman
post Jul 3 2007, 06:07 PM
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Don't we just wish we had socialized medicine in the U.S. Moreever don't we wish we had quality doctors like the lads in Great Britian.
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post Jul 3 2007, 06:55 PM
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Dogmeat
post Jul 3 2007, 07:02 PM
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I'm against damn near anything that's socialized, especially they way the socialists (IE democrats) want to socialize it.

I don't give a flying fuck if you're a dejected, drug addicted illegal mexican or a white kid whose parents wanted a boy, you don't deserve to have health care for being a fuckup.


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post Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 3 2007, 08:02 PM) *
I'm against damn near anything that's socialized, especially they way the socialists (IE democrats) want to socialize it.

I don't give a flying fuck if you're a dejected, drug addicted illegal mexican or a white kid whose parents wanted a boy, you don't deserve to have health care for being a fuckup.

So you're against police/fire services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).

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Edited out ambulance services. Fuck, don't know why I included that one. Those bills are AHHHHHHHHHHH insane.

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post Jul 4 2007, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM) *
So you're against police/fire/ambulance services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).


Right! It should be your own god damned fucking responsibility to get a bucket and put your house out if it's on fire!

Why, back in my day we spit our own damned house fires out, AND WE LIKED IT!!!!!


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post Jul 4 2007, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2007, 12:48 AM) *
So you're against police/fire/ambulance services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).

Please tell me you don't honestly believe this?


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post Jul 4 2007, 09:37 AM
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those who were obese, smokers, or drinkers would be fucked...might actually make this country get in shape


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post Jul 4 2007, 10:44 AM
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The UK's health system is far fron being perfect. However, it is still better than ours. It costs a LOT less and the average Brit is healthier than the average American.

Secondly, high healthcare costs are the primary reason why employers are outsourcing jobs to Canada. They can even afford to pay Canadian employees more and it cost them less because they don't have to spend so much on healthcare.


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post Jul 4 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM) *
So you're against police/fire/ambulance services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).

QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 4 2007, 08:49 AM) *

Please tell me you don't honestly believe this?

Ambulance services don't count. You'll get a bill for that shit. You can add public schools, the library, and the USPS though.

So, are you saying that police officers, fire fighters, teachers, and public library employee's aren't working for the government? The USPS is a government agency(not free, but subsidized. It's cheaper to mail stuff through the USPS than say UPS, FedEx, and DHL).

If your cat is stuck in a tree and the fire dept. comes and help, will they send you a bill for services rendered?
If you went to public school(elementary, middle, jr.high and high), did the school send your parent's a bill?
When you go to the public library to use their computers and check out books, do they make you pay?

Why don't you get a bill for these things? They're already paid for by our tax dollars. These are socialized services, paid for by the government.


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post Jul 4 2007, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 4 2007, 12:13 PM) *
Ambulance services don't count. You'll get a bill for that shit. You can add public schools, the library, and the USPS though.

So, are you saying that police officers, fire fighters, teachers, and public library employee's aren't working for the government? The USPS is a government agency(not free, but subsidized. It's cheaper to mail stuff through the USPS than say UPS, FedEx, and DHL).

If your cat is stuck in a tree and the fire dept. comes and help, will they send you a bill for services rendered?
If you went to public school(elementary, middle, jr.high and high), did the school send your parent's a bill?
When you go to the public library to use their computers and check out books, do they make you pay?

Why don't you get a bill for these things? They're already paid for by our tax dollars. These are socialized services, paid for by the government.

Sweet, you saved me the trouble. I owe you a beer (if I can find one you haven't tried). =P


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Rastaman
post Jul 4 2007, 03:21 PM
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I was just commenting on idea that the high quality doctors that practice in the socialised system have been on fire lately.
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post Jul 4 2007, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 4 2007, 12:13 PM) *
Ambulance services don't count. You'll get a bill for that shit. You can add public schools, the library, and the USPS though.

So, are you saying that police officers, fire fighters, teachers, and public library employee's aren't working for the government? The USPS is a government agency(not free, but subsidized. It's cheaper to mail stuff through the USPS than say UPS, FedEx, and DHL).

If your cat is stuck in a tree and the fire dept. comes and help, will they send you a bill for services rendered?
If you went to public school(elementary, middle, jr.high and high), did the school send your parent's a bill?
When you go to the public library to use their computers and check out books, do they make you pay?

Why don't you get a bill for these things? They're already paid for by our tax dollars. These are socialized services, paid for by the government.

I know all of this, but I'm asking if he actually believes that healthcare should be paid for by our taxes just like these services are.

I guess I should have made a full argument instead of a short post. I just don't think you can compare health care services to emergency services.


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Psykopath
post Jul 4 2007, 05:16 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 4 2007, 06:05 PM) *
I know all of this, but I'm asking if he actually believes that healthcare should be paid for by our taxes just like these services are.

I guess I should have made a full argument instead of a short post. I just don't think you can compare health care services to emergency services.


Your original post made absolutely no mention of the question you've put forth here.

I do believe that at least a partially subsidized form of health care would be an improvement to the current 'charge out the ass for every goddamned thing' medical system we have today.

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post Jul 4 2007, 06:42 PM
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we need to abolish government health care because it keeps the number of people living below the poverty line lower smile.gif


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JRockTTU
post Jul 4 2007, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2007, 06:16 PM) *
Your original post made absolutely no mention of the question you've put forth here.

That's why I said:

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I guess I should have made a full argument instead of a short post.


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