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impala454
post Jul 1 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 1 2007, 11:10 AM) *
LOL, a GM with 300,000 miles.

we have a chevrolet truck with 270k on it right now, still running fine for us. and I would be pretty shocked if a brand new technology electric gas hybrid vehicle lasts more than 100k.
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post Jul 1 2007, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:35 PM) *
oh i could give two shits about the environment. it's just funny to me when the greenies think they're doing all this to help when they really arent. like i've always said, i'll give the treehuggers respect when they move out into the woods naked and survive without killing any living thing or disturbing the environment



lmfao
You're absolutely clueless. Quit thinking that in order to "save the environment" we have to live like goddamn neaderthals.

So you give two-shits about the environment? Fine. Go live in that arid area you're carefully selected quote spoke of. You won't mind.


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post Jul 1 2007, 12:44 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:38 PM) *
no one ever said the hummer was "environmentally friendly". the basic idea is they're pointing out that even the magical prius has adverse affects on the environment.



No shit it does. I'd venture to say any manufactured product will do so. I din't think common knowledge needed to be pointed out but thanks for the hint, Captain Obvious!


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post Jul 1 2007, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 1 2007, 01:42 PM) *
lmfao
You're absolutely clueless. Quit thinking that in order to "save the environment" we have to live like goddamn neaderthals.

yeah i'm clueless... these dipshit uppity prius buyers think they're better than everyone else because they bought a hybrid. a hybrid whose manufacture includes one of the dirtiest polluting mining operations on the planet. you would have to live like a neanderthal to not affect the environment. the greenies like to pick and choose where they want to be green and it's friggin sad. "oh well I buy organic food", yeah harvested by a dirty diesel powered combine, dumped into a factory full of machines, then delivered by a big dirty diesel powered semi truck. "oh I have solar panels on my roof", yeah on the roof of your house made of wood, with asphalt shingles and in a neighborhood where some squirrel family used to live.

QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 1 2007, 01:42 PM) *
So you give two-shits about the environment? Fine. Go live in that arid area you're carefully selected quote spoke of. You won't mind.

i don't care about the environment. i like the way i live and am not a hypocrite by living in todays modern society and trying to claim i'm not impact the environment.
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post Jul 1 2007, 12:50 PM
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Impala getting owned in an NPR argument....looks like little has changed in my absence


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post Jul 1 2007, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (jimmy pop @ Jul 1 2007, 01:50 PM) *
Impala getting owned in an NPR argument....looks like little has changed in my absence

lemme guess, you drive a moped and feel like you're helping the environment too
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post Jul 1 2007, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:52 PM) *
lemme guess, you drive a moped and feel like you're helping the environment too


No, I'm Will and I saw you get owned in NPR arguments for the last 3 years


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post Jul 1 2007, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 12:41 PM) *
we have a chevrolet truck with 270k on it right now, still running fine for us. and I would be pretty shocked if a brand new technology electric gas hybrid vehicle lasts more than 100k.


Seriously, do you just pick out what you want to argue about and then just skip over the rest?

Prepare to be "pretty shocked" again.

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2. The "Dust-to-dust" study is from a marketing firm, not a science journal. It arrives at an artificially high cost for the Prius by assigning it an arbitrary lifespan of 100k miles, and a Hummer 300k miles. There's Prius being used as cabs that have 200k on them now: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8839690/


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post Jul 1 2007, 04:00 PM
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I heard somewhere that they're switching to Lithium batteries soon. Not for the enviroment, but because they can get more juice out of em.


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post Jul 1 2007, 05:18 PM
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post Jul 1 2007, 05:48 PM
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impala you havent posted anything in response to daus' article links.

and nothing youve said throughout this thread has made any sense. if one was a true greenie and wanted to live like one its fairly simple. Green Houses (and no not glass ones) are hugely popular, cost effective in the long run, virtually 100% environmentally friendly and literally recyclable. and you can build one is any modern day suburb or whatever climate you wish


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post Jul 1 2007, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (jimmy pop @ Jul 1 2007, 01:54 PM) *
No, I'm Will and I saw you get owned in NPR arguments for the last 3 years

lol will... like you saying i'm owned means jack shit... you ever get into UT? laugh.gif
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post Jul 1 2007, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jul 1 2007, 06:48 PM) *
impala you havent posted anything in response to daus' article links.

daus posted a link to some environmentalists blog... wtf do you think it's gonna say?

QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jul 1 2007, 06:48 PM) *
and nothing youve said throughout this thread has made any sense. if one was a true greenie and wanted to live like one its fairly simple. Green Houses (and no not glass ones) are hugely popular, cost effective in the long run, virtually 100% environmentally friendly and literally recyclable. and you can build one is any modern day suburb or whatever climate you wish

show me one
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post Jul 2 2007, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:50 PM) *
yeah i'm clueless... these dipshit uppity prius buyers think they're better than everyone else because they bought a hybrid. a hybrid whose manufacture includes one of the dirtiest polluting mining operations on the planet. you would have to live like a neanderthal to not affect the environment. the greenies like to pick and choose where they want to be green and it's friggin sad. "oh well I buy organic food", yeah harvested by a dirty diesel powered combine, dumped into a factory full of machines, then delivered by a big dirty diesel powered semi truck. "oh I have solar panels on my roof", yeah on the roof of your house made of wood, with asphalt shingles and in a neighborhood where some squirrel family used to live.
i don't care about the environment. i like the way i live and am not a hypocrite by living in todays modern society and trying to claim i'm not impact the environment.

Maybe some people buy organic food because it's healthier for them? Last I checked, we did live in a free country. What do you care if people want to try to do something for the environment? It's their business if they want to use less energy or try to help out. I agree that they can eat a dick when they try to force the shit on me, and a lot of them are pretty smug, but you're pretty smug yourself when it comes to trying to prove that you doing jack shit makes you better than them.

QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:36 PM) *
daus posted a link to some environmentalists blog... wtf do you think it's gonna say?
show me one

learn2google

http://www.aboutmyplanet.com/alternative-e...d-a-green-house

that is one webpage, you can google and find them yourself. They use a lot of recycled materials and energy efficient shit. See GW Bush's house for an example, not Al Gore's.


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post Jul 2 2007, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 2 2007, 10:06 AM) *
Maybe some people buy organic food because it's healthier for them? Last I checked, we did live in a free country. What do you care if people want to try to do something for the environment? It's their business if they want to use less energy or try to help out. I agree that they can eat a dick when they try to force the shit on me, and a lot of them are pretty smug, but you're pretty smug yourself when it comes to trying to prove that you doing jack shit makes you better than them.

i don't care if someone wants to do something to help the environment. i do care when people try to tell me that i have to do something to help the environment. as far as the prius story, i just thought it was an interesting irony, that's all.

QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 2 2007, 10:06 AM) *
learn2google

http://www.aboutmyplanet.com/alternative-e...d-a-green-house

that is one webpage, you can google and find them yourself. They use a lot of recycled materials and energy efficient shit. See GW Bush's house for an example, not Al Gore's.

ok of course there's ways to build your house more energy efficient, but it still all boils down to affecting the environment. how did those materials get there? how were they manufactured? etc. of course i'd want to have an energy efficient house, it's cheaper on the bills. but when some greenies pass legislation that makes my shower have less water pressure (which of course I hack out the regulator of any shower head I buy), or make it so my huge dump takes 3 flushes to get down the toilet it's annoying.

and none of it changes the fact that we're having an adverse affect on the environment. from my point of view, everyone pollutes the environment, whether it's because they drive a super-smog 5000 2 ton pickup truck, or because they buy goods which arrived at the store on a super-smog 20000 40 ton semi truck. polluting a little less doesn't change anything, because you're still polluting. the world does not become nicer and greener with more little cute furry animals because your car gets 20 mpg better than someone elses. until we have back to the future mr. fusions all over the place (which i truly believe will happen some day), we will live in a world where there's pollution. it's the way it works, it's our way of life. the world will survive. there's trees in existence that have stood for 5000 years, they'll still be here another 5000 years from now, whether we are or not.
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