 And they say they're a peaceful people |
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 Jun 14 2007, 08:34 AM
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I am not sure how many of you have been keeping up with what is going on in Gaza but I find it interesting that the Palestinians say they are peaceful (a good number are) but they cannot have peace amongst themselves. How do they expect to live in harmony with the Israelis like they say they want to if they fight amongst themselves (and it's not even about land)?
We are dealing with a client in the Middle East and they are hard to deal with. The culture does not want to negotiate unless it benefits them. So, we go in, we tell them a price, they try to haggle, but we can't give. If we give in, they continue to haggle and it could continue indefinitely so we stick to our price. This is how everything is over there. They want globalization, well, that requires them to give a little when it comes to customs and business practices and the same can be said about the way they handle their politics. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6751079.stm -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jun 14 2007, 08:50 AM
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you, in your experience of going over there, and I know damn well no one in that region of the world is a peaceful people.
except the bedouins. the only way to govern those people and ensure peace is by being a heavy-handed, darth vaderesque dictator like saddam. sad, but true. |
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Jun 14 2007, 09:12 AM
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yeah bc saddam was so peaceful..
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Jun 14 2007, 09:20 AM
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sigh
Can you frickin read? Saddam wasn't peaceful, who said that? He kept the peace in his country by being Vader. There was no in-fighting, no rebellions, etc. Why? Because the only thing these people understand is the heavy hand. As Iraq has evidenced, they sure as hell do not comprehend peaceful freedom. This isn't an Iraq thread, so don't turn it into one. |
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Jun 14 2007, 09:29 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yeah I can read. this is what I read. I dunno how the hell else to interpret it.
QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 14 2007, 09:50 AM)  the only way to govern those people and ensure peace is by being a heavy-handed, darth vaderesque dictator like saddam. sad, but true. i agree with you though that these people don't understand peaceful freedom. maybe they will some day who knows. |
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Jun 14 2007, 09:32 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 10:29 AM) yeah I can read. this is what I read. I dunno how the hell else to interpret it. i agree with you though that these people don't understand peaceful freedom. maybe they will some day who knows. interpret it as in order for them to have peace that need someone scaring them into having it and saddam was good at that -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jun 14 2007, 09:41 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
well I guess we all have different interpretations of the word "peace". I understand what cupcake was saying, that there wasn't as much fighting within the country. but that doesn't mean there was peace, it just means the citizens were submissive and rather than fighting the government they would get executed. The other problem is that, while the country might have been "safer", they sure still invaded another country. Iran is currently in similiar situation and are most definitely not peaceful. I have no problem w/the "rule with an iron fist" philosophy, but it's not the solution to peace when you're invading other countries in the region.
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Jun 14 2007, 09:51 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 10:41 AM) well I guess we all have different interpretations of the word "peace". I understand what cupcake was saying, that there wasn't as much fighting within the country. but that doesn't mean there was peace, it just means the citizens were submissive and rather than fighting the government they would get executed. The other problem is that, while the country might have been "safer", they sure still invaded another country. Iran is currently in similiar situation and are most definitely not peaceful. I have no problem w/the "rule with an iron fist" philosophy, but it's not the solution to peace when you're invading other countries in the region. I honestly think that Iran was more of a problem than Iraq. It seems we attacked the lesser evil. -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jun 14 2007, 10:00 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
i wasnt turning it into an iraq thread. just saying to cupcake that the heavy handed dictatorships over there really arent peaceful.
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Jun 14 2007, 10:07 AM
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for the love of god...no one said they were...
fuckin forget it. |
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Jun 14 2007, 10:08 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 14 2007, 11:07 AM) for the love of god...no one said they were... fuckin forget it. no it's ok i know what you meant -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jun 14 2007, 10:22 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,795 Joined: 29-September 06 Member No.: 327 |
I know...
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Jun 14 2007, 10:23 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 14 2007, 11:07 AM) for the love of god...no one said they were... fuckin forget it. sorry bud I dunno what I did wrong here. just tryin to understand why heavy handed dictatorships would lead to peace in the region. |
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Jun 14 2007, 10:27 AM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 11:23 AM) sorry bud I dunno what I did wrong here. just tryin to understand why heavy handed dictatorships would lead to peace in the region. QUOTE you, in your experience of going over there, and I know damn well no one in that region of the world is a peaceful people. except the bedouins. the only way to govern those people and ensure peace is by being a heavy-handed, darth vaderesque dictator like saddam. sad, but true. FUCKING LEARN TO READ EVERYTHING IDIOT --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jun 14 2007, 10:32 AM
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impala failed reading comprehension 101
check out my sig |
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