Tech student shot, killed in Tech Terrace neighborhood Options

[cmac]

why does everyone from texas hate california?

[James]

Reason #1 - Person that shot to maim instead of shot to kill was sued by the intruder, successfully.

Reason #2 - Paris Hilton.

Those two should be more than enough

[impala454]

but to people like me and cupcake, who have actually had to pull steel on someone, our reaction is the exact opposite.

that gave me a good laugh right there. dude you dont have a f'n clue what I'm saying. if some guy is in your house with bad intentions and has a gun, it's not in his f'n pants, it's loaded, cocked, and ready to blow you away. this isn't a police officer or military situation. if it's too dark to tell if someone has a gun, and they heed no verbal warnings and I have no other alternative, I'm shooting their ass. not fumbling around for a flashlight (which will immediately give my position away) or sneaking my way to the lightswitch. do you think they're going to show the same restraint? we're not talking about some situation on the street or in iraq, we're talking about someone being inside your home someone who is more than likely armed, and has a good chance of being on some drugs that impair their judgement. You can call me incompetent with a gun all you want, but the law agrees with me. and of course i'm not gonna just grab the gun and run around the corner ablazing. of course I'll do everything in my power to assess the situation and make the sensible decision. i'm not just out to get my jollies by killing people. when I lived in that area of town and kept my .357 loaded at night, i actually kept the first couple of rounds shotshells so I could hopefully incapacitate someone first if need be. but you can take your "ooh look at me" experience and calls that I shouldn't have a gun and shove em up your ass.

[FORSAKENR320]

that gave me a good laugh right there. dude you dont have a f'n clue what I'm saying. if some guy is in your house with bad intentions and has a gun, it's not in his f'n pants, it's loaded, cocked, and ready to blow you away. this isn't a police officer or military situation. if it's too dark to tell if someone has a gun, and they heed no verbal warnings and I have no other alternative, I'm shooting their ass. not fumbling around for a flashlight (which will immediately give my position away) or sneaking my way to the lightswitch. do you think they're going to show the same restraint? we're not talking about some situation on the street or in iraq, we're talking about someone being inside your home someone who is more than likely armed, and has a good chance of being on some drugs that impair their judgement. You can call me incompetent with a gun all you want, but the law agrees with me. and of course i'm not gonna just grab the gun and run around the corner ablazing. of course I'll do everything in my power to assess the situation and make the sensible decision. i'm not just out to get my jollies by killing people. when I lived in that area of town and kept my .357 loaded at night, i actually kept the first couple of rounds shotshells so I could hopefully incapacitate someone first if need be. but you can take your "ooh look at me" experience and calls that I shouldn't have a gun and shove em up your ass.

if some guy is in your house with bad intentions and has a gun, it's not in his f'n pants, it's loaded, cocked, and ready to blow you away.

well, thats why you fucking I.d. the situation properly, dumbass. if he's a threat he's dead. THIS GUY WAS NOT A THREAT YOU STUPID FUCKING ITALIAN BASTARD

if it's too dark to tell if someone has a gun, and they heed no verbal warnings and I have no other alternative, I'm shooting their ass.

this is fucking stupid. if it's too dark to see the guy has a gun, then it's too dark to know who the person is. but being the weekend warrior asshat that you are you're gonna pull some rambo bullshit anyway? you're the kind of person that causes all these fucking gun laws to happen in the first place. just take your guns to the pawn shop you don't deserve to have them.


and what would be the difference between a situation in the street and in your home? you keep mentioning that it isn't the military or the police., so apparently you think handling a gun differently in your home is apparently ok. what if it was a friend of yours who just had a crisis and came over paniced? according to what you are saying... you can't see the guy, can't see he's armed, but you're going to shoot anyway. congrats. you just shot your friend. if it was your sister who was just raped, had no where to go, is in shock and came running to your house because she was too paniced to think to call first? you just killed your sister. you are a total dumb fuck the more i read anything you post. the rules that apply to gun while you're in the military apply to anyone out of the military. you don't shoot at what you can't fucking see! move to california you ignorant little child

[impala454]

well, thats why you fucking I.d. the situation properly, dumbass. if he's a threat he's dead. THIS GUY WAS NOT A THREAT YOU STUPID FUCKING ITALIAN BASTARD

we stopped talking about the kid

this is fucking stupid. if it's too dark to see the guy has a gun, then it's too dark to know who the person is.

and also too dark for the guy to see who you are, which means you're dead. my God is it that difficult to understand?

and what would be the difference between a situation in the street and in your home?

uh... because in your home the person isn't fucking supposed to be there! fucking A were you a cop?!?!? this kinda shit scares me.

what if it was a friend of yours who just had a crisis and came over paniced? according to what you are saying... you can't see the guy, can't see he's armed, but you're going to shoot anyway. congrats. you just shot your friend. if it was your sister who was just raped, had no where to go, is in shock and came running to your house because she was too paniced to think to call first? you just killed your sister.

if it was my friend/family and I yelled at him "identify yourself or I'll shoot you!" he'd speak up! geezus man

you are a total dumb fuck the more i read anything you post. the rules that apply to gun while you're in the military apply to anyone out of the military. you don't shoot at what you can't fucking see! move to california you ignorant little child

well hopefully you'll come upon this situation so you'll get shot and robbed while trying shine your little flashlight the guy. i'm glad we have cops who feel situations on the street and inside a private home are the same thing. you're a fucking idiot if you think they are. no wonder cops have such a bad name nowadays.

If I hear someone in my house at 3:45 AM, I'm getting my gun, peering around the corner, and if I see nothing but a shadow of a person I'm going to yell at them, "who are you and wtf are you doing in my house". if they don't respond I'm going to yell again, "if you don't respond to me in 5 seconds I will shoot you". if they don't respond I'm shooting them. of course in most situations there will be some amount of light, and easy to see the person, but if people don't respond to those two statements, and don't run away, they're getting shot. I'm sorry you don't agree with the law.

[pysex]

i just want to clarify that impala is not italian


and if he is....i hereby change my heritage to swedish

[impala454]

i'm american

[cupcake]

well hopefully you'll come upon this situation so you'll get shot and robbed while trying shine your little flashlight the guy.

one clarification...while my surefire may be small, it will momentarily incapacitate and bewilder someone who's in "night vision" meaning their eyes have adjusted to the dark. it is a wholly unpleasant, somewhat painful experience. I suggest looking into one. and having you and your buddies try it out on each other...

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http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_dis...br/16/sesent/00

[impala454]

yeah i suppose the flashlight could be ok... I'd just hate to give myself away so easily if the guy was armed. it's just a hypothetical situation anyways, 99 times out of 100 you'll be able to vaguely see the person and know their intentions. it's just the hypothetical situation that they dont respond to your verbal assault and dont leave your home, and you cannot ID them.

[FORSAKENR320]

yeah i suppose the flashlight could be ok... I'd just hate to give myself away so easily if the guy was armed. it's just a hypothetical situation anyways, 99 times out of 100 you'll be able to vaguely see the person and know their intentions. it's just the hypothetical situation that they dont respond to your verbal assault and dont leave your home, and you cannot ID them.

you don't wanna use a flashlight... but you're willing to scream at someone and give away your presence that way..... it doesn't change a thing. if you can't see what you're shooting at, don't fucking shoot. you should know your own place well enough that you won't need a flash light till you're almost on the guy. if you heard a noise to wake up in the first place, then odds are the intruder will still be making enough noise for you to be able to locate him. assess the situation while hiding if you can, determine the threat without being seen if possible. you should have already called the police as soon as you woke up. if you can avoid confrontation without him knowing you are there watching. you should do that. the important thing is that you protect your family. if he never comes near them and is content to try stealing a few carriable items out, let him. losing property is better than killing someone. i understand alot of people are like "fuck that! i'm blowing that thieves ass away so he can't do it again!" but do any of you actually want to know you killed someone for the rest of your life? i sure don't. if he sees you, (and because impala is a dumb ass, i will have to remind him that he's already i.d.'d the threat, determined that the guy isn't armed, or that the gun is it a place that will take a couple seconds to get to) you should stall. hit him with the flashlight in the eyes, watch to see if he goes for that gun. yell at him to freeze and lay down. but stall so the police can show up if at all possible. if he jumps for that gun in his waist, you have no choice but to shoot him. the flashlight should have killed his night vision like cupcake said, making it less likely he could see you to shoot you, giving you a little bit of safety, but if he goes for that gun, stalling is over and you are forced to shoot.

[impala454]

you don't wanna use a flashlight... but you're willing to scream at someone and give away your presence that way..... it doesn't change a thing.

uh... so it's just as easy for you to shoot at a sound than a light??

if you can't see what you're shooting at, don't fucking shoot.

the scenario were talking about here is that you can see a person, but not identify who they are or why they're there.

of course I'll do everything I can to see who the person is and assess wtf they're doing in my house, but if someone isnt' responding to me yelling at them or is stealing my stuff, they're only leaving my house one of two ways, in cuffs or on a stretcher. that person put themselves in the situation, and imho deserves no remorse whatsover. the only remorse they get from me is that perhaps I might aim low or use the shotshells as my first couple of rounds in the wheel. i'm not risking the life of my family and i on the extreme 1 in 10,000 or whatever it is, edge case that it's some drunk kid in the wrong house.

[Testm0nkey]

i'm american

did anyone else hear blue grass music and picture something like this?

[GOB]

did anyone else hear blue grass music and picture something like this?

i thought of this:

[JRockTTU]

well it did happen. in california, yes. but it still happened

I believe that it happened. The laws in most of the country, and in Texas in the past, allowed that to happen. I just saw that Guv'nah Perry signed an amendment that would exempt Texans from any civil liability if they shot and injured someone defending their home, vehicle, or work. This is recent, within the past few months.

[FORSAKENR320]

I believe that it happened. The laws in most of the country, and in Texas in the past, allowed that to happen. I just saw that Guv'nah Perry signed an amendment that would exempt Texans from any civil liability if they shot and injured someone defending their home, vehicle, or work. This is recent, within the past few months.

that ould be most favorable.