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impala454
post Jun 13 2007, 01:11 PM
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so while you're taking the time to shine your flashlight on the guy and stare him down, you don't think he'd shoot you before you got the chance?

and yeah I'm not saying you blamed the shooter, just discussing similiar situations which we could all end up in some day.
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post Jun 13 2007, 01:26 PM
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I hear you.

ID'ing the threat doesn't take time. you either have a light rail or you use the method I use...a cross-wrist technique like this stylish heart-throb:



either way, it's up to the responsible gun owner to positively ID the threat before shooting. it doesn't take anymore time than it does to point the weapon, since it's in the same stroke.
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post Jun 13 2007, 01:30 PM
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I understand what you're saying. I just see the situation as someone standing in your living room, hearing you coming, you turn the corner and get blown away while your flipping the light on.
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post Jun 13 2007, 01:41 PM
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yeah, well regardless I think this dude was pretty quick on the trigger out of fear. evidenced by shooting center mass (instinctive pointing)

lucky for him this is texas. I do not blame him for what he did. I just hate seeing this shit happen.
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impala454
post Jun 13 2007, 01:49 PM
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yeah, definitely a sad case. I love to see when actual armed criminals get their ass shot invading someone's home though.
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post Jun 13 2007, 02:20 PM
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lol

in that case, a quick story this dude who works with my buddy has a brother (no really!?)...a few months back, he was sitting in his home in an old part of dallas, grizzled nam vet who lives alone and keeps a .45 near him at all times (no jokes about me, thx). broad daylight, in walks this big black dude...walks right past him like he's nothing and heads to his back bedroom like he knows where the fuck he's going...

guy follows him with his weapon and is yelling and shit and the black dude is ignoring him as he approached his closet. guy has all his guns in that closet and knows he needs to end this before cletus gets ahold of one so he pops him in the ass, which of course drops his big ass. invader goes of to jail.

can you imagine getting shot with .45 in the ass?
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post Jun 13 2007, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 03:20 PM) *
can you imagine getting shot with .45 in the ass?



ouch

nice big hole


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post Jun 13 2007, 02:39 PM
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heh that would suck. I always figured I could have both guns (the .22 target pistol and the .357). could swiss cheese em w/the .22, and if they didn't go down blow em away w/the .357.
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post Jun 13 2007, 02:55 PM
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what .22 do you have?

cheap ammo is rad.
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post Jun 13 2007, 03:02 PM
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post Jun 13 2007, 03:08 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 13 2007, 04:02 PM) *
a Ruger MKIII Hunter

I want one just for plinking.


Then I would have a .22 pistol along with my .357...WE'D BE GUN TWINS!?!?! omg


/ends off topic post best saved for the "Guns" thread.

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post Jun 13 2007, 03:21 PM
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those things are nail drivers.
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post Jun 13 2007, 04:05 PM
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Cannonball (I refuse to call you cupcake) wins this thread, Impala comes off as a Texan "shoot-em first" Wild West stereotype.

The shooter supposedly had enough time to both verbal request the intruder leave, as well as firing a warning shot into the air. In the amount of time this would take he obviously should have been able to ID this intruder, as well as seeing whether or not the man is armed.

You are within your right to shoot the man if he's in your house, but it's on you when you're all over the newspapers and have to live the rest of your life knowing you killed a 23 year old kid that was unarmed. I don't need that over my head for the rest of my life.


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post Jun 13 2007, 04:20 PM
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come hither...call me cupcake...

whisper it...

LOL

so is it all over the news there? I just got a call about it sunday morning, but am in dallas and this is the first press I've seen on it. how is the media "slanting" it...because I'm sure they are in way or another.
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post Jun 13 2007, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 12:08 PM) *
I can't believe that a rational man followed rule 4 and decided it was a good idea to go ahead with the shot. He obviously didn't ID the threat well enough.

this is pretty much the consensus i've seen from reading about buying a handgun and getting a concealed carry license, and i'm sure a lot of that is based on that jeff cooper guy.

and like cannonball said earlier (or later?) in this thread, several people i know with personal arsenals and tons of experience have told me they would probably be the last to pull the trigger in most situations.
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