 Interesting search and seizure situation |
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| Interesting search and seizure situation |
 Jun 10 2007, 09:31 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65  |
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/06/a...ls_court_r.html
Ok, 1) This basically gives the police the right to wiretap or search anyone without a warrant. 2) This is definitely not the right way for our police to operate even if it is constitutional. I mean, imagine if someone had been hurt. At the very minimum, our tax dollars are going to fix the car the police just damaged. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM)  Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jun 10 2007, 09:54 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
1) Police have always had this right to search without a warrant.
2) Our tax dollars are going to put this guy in jail, not fix his car. I highly doubt anyone was in any danger. Police officers have more driving experience than anyone else I can think of short of truckers, but that's a different kind of driving. It's a clever way to accomplish what needed to be accomplished without jeopardizing the rest of the case. Never thought I'd see innovation come out of a police department, even if it's at the federal level 
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Jun 10 2007, 09:57 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
that's ridiculous, it was 100% overkill.
QUOTE Second, they wanted to protect the anonymity of the ongoing investigation -- another vital objective. this is retarded. they could have just had a normal cruiser pull them over for something dumb and then searched. |
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Jun 10 2007, 10:00 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
If you had a car load of drugs and knew you weren't speeding, your tail lights were working, seatbelt was on, and whatever else, would you stop or would you speed up and make them chase you and hope to get away...yeah.
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Jun 10 2007, 10:02 PM
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monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (James @ Jun 10 2007, 11:00 PM) If you had a car load of drugs and knew you weren't speeding, your tail lights were working, seatbelt was on, and whatever else, would you stop or would you speed up and make them chase you and hope to get away...yeah. true, but i might also speed off if involved in an accident while transporting drugs. |
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Jun 10 2007, 10:03 PM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (James @ Jun 10 2007, 10:54 PM) 1) Police have always had this right to search without a warrant. 2) Our tax dollars are going to put this guy in jail, not fix his car. I highly doubt anyone was in any danger. Police officers have more driving experience than anyone else I can think of short of truckers, but that's a different kind of driving. It's a clever way to accomplish what needed to be accomplished without jeopardizing the rest of the case. Never thought I'd see innovation come out of a police department, even if it's at the federal level No, cops being able to search a car without a warrant is a fairly new thing. I mean, warrants ARE in the constitution. And even now, those searches are only under certain circumstances and with probable cause. For example, a cop can pull you over if you have a broken tail light and search you if he feels he has probable cause. This case is more of an example of a cop breaking the tail light and then pulling them over for the broken tail light. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jun 10 2007, 10:04 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
That's interesting you should mention that because it seems like the car was pinned after the one behind it rear ended them. So how'd the cop manage to "steal" it. Their plan obviously planned on pinning them to keep them from running off like you mentioned.
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Jun 10 2007, 10:05 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Jun 10 2007, 11:03 PM) No, cops being able to search a car without a warrant is a fairly new thing. I mean, warrants ARE in the constitution. And even now, those searches are only under certain circumstances and with probable cause. For example, a cop can pull you over if you have a broken tail light and search you if he feels he has probable cause. This case is more of an example of a cop breaking the tail light and then pulling them over for the broken tail light. As I said, cops have always been able to search without a warrant. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Jun 10 2007, 10:08 PM
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monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Jun 10 2007, 11:03 PM) This case is more of an example of a cop breaking the tail light and then pulling them over for the broken tail light. yeah, seems like entrapment |
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Jun 10 2007, 11:08 PM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (James @ Jun 10 2007, 11:05 PM) As I said, cops have always been able to search without a warrant. No... they haven't. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jun 11 2007, 12:39 AM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
It court is has been upheld that a warrent is not needed if impending information is known by authorities. This is like the retroactive warrents on the federal level, but involves a criminal case and not just the warrent.
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Jun 11 2007, 08:10 AM
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 Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Jun 11 2007, 12:08 AM) No... they haven't. probably cause is enough to search without a warrant. like in lubbock, if i were to walk around my apartment complex in full bdsm gear then the lubbock police could search my apartment on probable cause that i have more than six of the same sexually oriented item. ooooooooor if i get pulled over for driving funny and my car smells of weed. -------------------- 32-bit whore
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Jun 11 2007, 08:23 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Jun 11 2007, 09:10 AM) probably cause is enough to search without a warrant. like in lubbock, if i were to walk around my apartment complex in full bdsm gear then the lubbock police could search my apartment on probable cause that i have more than six of the same sexually oriented item. ooooooooor if i get pulled over for driving funny and my car smells of weed. OMG! NO THEY HAVEN'T!
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Jun 11 2007, 10:25 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Jun 11 2007, 09:10 AM) probably cause is enough to search without a warrant. like in lubbock, if i were to walk around my apartment complex in full bdsm gear then the lubbock police could search my apartment on probable cause that i have more than six of the same sexually oriented item. ooooooooor if i get pulled over for driving funny and my car smells of weed. NICK! NOT AGAIN! Didn't we tell you last time they'd get pissed! -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jun 11 2007, 03:06 PM
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Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
but its so snug and comfortable...
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