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post Jun 4 2007, 08:48 PM
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http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/30/another...rs-into-felons/
http://inventorspot.com/felonytosellgames
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A08696&sh=t

Long story short: On May 30th, New York politicians proposed a bill that would make it a felony for retailers to sell games including "depraved violence and indecent images" (i.e. most M-rated games, possibly some T-rated ones too?) to folks under age 17. It would be a class E felony, which means 1-4 years in prison.

On May 31st, it passed in the New York Assembly 130 to 10. I'm not sure by what margin the corresponding legislation in the state senate passed by earlier in the month. The bill has passed and all that remains is for it to be signed into law by New York's governor.

Is it just me or is this MAJOR overkill? I'll admit that I disagree with putting legal age restrictions on the sale of games and movies in general, but I can see why people would support such legislation. However, anything more than a misdemeanor for such a "crime" is asinine.


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post Jun 4 2007, 09:37 PM
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what a bunch of fucking retards. Ohio and a few other states have all had similar if not exactly the same (albeit with only misdemeanor punishments) bills that actually got passed into laws just so they could be ruled unconstitutional.

New york needs to get over their fucking selves. People like them even less than Texas.

And I lump Jersey in there too.


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post Jun 4 2007, 09:58 PM
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wow these are video games not alcohol
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post Jun 5 2007, 12:32 AM
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lets take some minors to strip clubs in jersey!


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post Jun 5 2007, 08:06 AM
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overkill, but probably the only way that people will actually check ids on selling games

if you are going to pass this law, then you might as well do the same for movies


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post Jun 5 2007, 08:10 AM
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yeah i'd be interested to know what these dipshits have in place for people selling a kid a rated R movie ticket.
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post Jun 5 2007, 09:19 AM
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I always thought felonies were at the federal level so it had to be federally passed.... yay for never paying attention in government. haha

anyways, I think its a good idea because kids dont need to be playing shit like that.
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post Jun 5 2007, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 5 2007, 10:19 AM) *
I always thought felonies were at the federal level so it had to be federally passed.... yay for never paying attention in government. haha

anyways, I think its a good idea because kids dont need to be playing shit like that.


laws wont really stop them, theyll get them if they want them


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post Jun 5 2007, 09:30 AM
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oh I know, but at least it encourages retailers to abide by the law. I think the issue is parents not monitoring their kids, and this will make that even more apparent. I dont see why everyone is bitching so much about it
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post Jun 5 2007, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 5 2007, 10:30 AM) *
oh I know, but at least it encourages retailers to abide by the law. I think the issue is parents not monitoring their kids, and this will make that even more apparent. I dont see why everyone is bitching so much about it

Uh, you cashiered at Best Buy for a while. What if some 16 year old that looked old as shit bought a game from you that was rated M (before they had the little pop up thing reminding you to check age). That would mean instead of getting a fine, you would be subject to spending 1-4 years in prison. That's excessive if I've ever heard it. And yes, the issue is the parents not monitoring the kids, which is why I think it's ludicrous that the salesperson goes to jail but the kid and parents aren't affected at all.


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post Jun 5 2007, 10:36 AM
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bravo, new york...bravo...

like NYC doesn't have bigger fuckin fish to fry...

no need worrying about all the international criminal trade and shit that affects the global market...there are kids buying RE4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in related news, why isn't there a full on porn video game? like one where you could control all the fuckin going on instead of just speed and off screen shots like on god of war?

if graphic enough, that shit would make millions.
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post Jun 5 2007, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 5 2007, 11:36 AM) *
bravo, new york...bravo...

like NYC doesn't have bigger fuckin fish to fry...

no need worrying about all the international criminal trade and shit that affects the global market...there are kids buying RE4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in related news, why isn't there a full on porn video game? like one where you could control all the fuckin going on instead of just speed and off screen shots like on god of war?

if graphic enough, that shit would make millions.


too many people who have no relation to the game or will ever see it would bitch and cry until its edited down to a tellytuby game


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post Jun 5 2007, 11:06 AM
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Well im glad we are taking the responsibility off the parents and putting it on 16 year old clerks at walmart. That should solve the problem. Felony is way too much... should be a fine at best (against the store).


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post Jun 5 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (schwab @ Jun 5 2007, 12:00 PM) *
too many people who have no relation to the game or will ever see it would bitch and cry until its edited down to a tellytuby game


but how come you can have websites that anyone can view (i.e., no ID needed) that show that shit for real?

the game would at least be available only to those who have ID.
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post Jun 5 2007, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jun 5 2007, 11:27 AM) *
Uh, you cashiered at Best Buy for a while. What if some 16 year old that looked old as shit bought a game from you that was rated M (before they had the little pop up thing reminding you to check age). That would mean instead of getting a fine, you would be subject to spending 1-4 years in prison. That's excessive if I've ever heard it. And yes, the issue is the parents not monitoring the kids, which is why I think it's ludicrous that the salesperson goes to jail but the kid and parents aren't affected at all.



fits under TABC rules to me. you need an i.d. for a purchase, do your job right and get the damn id. stop being a lazy fuck. in a bar, someone presents you with an id that looks legit, then later turns out to be fake, the bartender is not at fault. same conept. cashier, just do the fucking job right and you won't get in trouble


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